John Lund Unleashed Episode 44: Jimmy for nothing, NFL FAs who fit, Tongue Guy (2)

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00:00Introduction and Show Overview

05:45Personal Anecdote: A Proud Father’s Moment

09:54Conspiracy Theories in the NFL

15:33Debate on Super Bowl Preferences

20:11Debo Samuel’s Podcast and Media Interactions

32:27The Vegas Experience: A New Era for NFL Fans

35:22Free Agency Frenzy: The 49ers’ Strategic Moves

40:56Financial Flexibility: Navigating the Salary Cap

46:12Potential Free Agents: Filling the Gaps

51:30Youth and Speed: The 49ers’ Future Focus

01:01:30Connections Matter: Building a Winning Team

01:05:40Frustration with the Giants’ Inactivity

01:10:26NFL Free Agency Insights

01:11:51Jimmy Butler’s Suspension and Trade Rumors

01:19:27Potential Destinations for Jimmy Butler

01:28:54New Orleans Stories and Life Lessons

01:38:46The Evolution of Pizza and Donuts

01:46:21The Tongue Guy Phenomenon

01:56:10Sports and Food: A Tangential Journey

Summary John Lund discusses various topics including NFL updates, personal anecdotes about his son’s achievements, and the ongoing conspiracy theories surrounding the league. He also engages in a debate about preferences for the upcoming Super Bowl and shares insights on media interactions with players like Debo Samuel. In this segment, John Lund discusses the evolving landscape of NFL fandom in Las Vegas, the strategic moves the 49ers need to make in free agency, and the importance of financial flexibility within the salary cap. He highlights potential free agents that could fill gaps in the 49ers’ roster, emphasizing the need for youth and speed to enhance the team’s performance. Lund also underscores the significance of connections in building a successful team, particularly with players who have ties to the organization. In this segment, John Lund discusses the current state of the Giants, expressing frustration over their inactivity in the NFL. He transitions into insights on NFL free agency, highlighting the dynamics of player movements. The conversation shifts to Jimmy Butler’s recent suspension and the implications for potential trades, with Lund analyzing the leverage situation for the Miami Heat. He explores possible destinations for Butler, emphasizing the risks and rewards for teams considering him. The segment concludes with Lund sharing humorous and cautionary tales from his experiences in New Orleans, blending sports commentary with personal anecdotes. In this lively conversation, John Lund explores the nuances of food preferences, particularly focusing on pizza and donuts, while humorously debating the merits of various breakfast items. The discussion takes a whimsical turn with the introduction of ‘Tongue Guy,’ a man with the world’s widest tongue, leading to amusing commentary on media reactions and societal perceptions.

TRANSCRIPT:

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More rabbit holes, Jimmy revisited and tongue guy 2

Good morning.

Uh, thank you for joining us. I’ll just let you uh soak in the uh show cover today.

Okay, there you go. There’s a little Jimmy Butler for you, which I’m as surprised as you that we will discuss today. There’s a ton of NFL to get to, you see.

Tongue guy there with I don’t know, kind of what thing that is. There’s Taylor, there’s a rabbit hole there. We’re not gonna rabbit hole like we did yesterday. I’m not trying to

uh spread falsities cuz that is uh that’s not happening. We’re not doing that like we did yesterday. Although I think uh there was a reason why and there are still falsehoods when it comes to the

chiefs.

Yeah, there. I knew it was gonna end very shortly.

Uh, thank you so much for joining us. Happy is it today Hump Day?

Today is a Wednesday. Today is Hump Day on the uh show. It is John Lund Unleashed. John Lund Unleashed pod. Please make sure that you are

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put them up there. Anyway, we’ll do roll call in just uh one second, but uh it is great to have you. Also if you were new to the show, I was talking to some friends after the show yesterday and they were

talking about you do this and you do that. They loved the chalkboard. One of my friends was saying, well could you tell us where you are on the chalkboard? Like could you could you flash where you are because sometimes they come in the middle of the show and

and I don’t know where you are. And I said, well, I don’t know where I am either a lot of times. I go back and forth on it depending on what I need to do. So I guess I could try. So we’ll try to make it a little bit more in order, but you know me, little ADD popping in. But uh also in addition to YouTube, please welcome our friends

watching on X at JohnLundRadio, also watching on Instagram where you can get the chat going on Instagram as well at JohnLundRadio, same thing. I can see look I’m looking right now

onto the uh Instagram chats. So we got people jumping in there as well. So thank you so much, no matter how you are watching, maybe you’re listening

because right after the show we uh throw it onto the podcast. I don’t throw it we very carefully set it gently onto the uh onto the podcast, Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your favorite podcast. So thank you, thank you, thank you.

I also was doing a bit of a tour as well. Was on with my friend Ian Furness in Seattle yesterday. So if you’re joining from Seattle, thank you, thank you, thank you so much as well. So anyway, much appreciated everybody coming in today.

We will go over the chalkboard in just a second, but we’d like to say hello to everybody, especially in the YouTube chat. So Tacky is here, Pat H, thank you very much. Jazz Fan is here today. Jacob is uh here as well. Thank you very much. Hi Hey Sue’s, Vernon, Jake, Hurley Bird,

uh who do we else? Uh Smedes is in today. I hope I said that right today. Uh 59 50 our good friend is actually 84. Joey is here, which is very, very nice. JJ Raider is here today. Senior softball games. My goodness man, everybody.

Got the whole crew here today. Absolutely positively great. John Holmes is here everybody. Be careful. Uh what else do we have? Who else do we have? If I did not say your name, I apologize. We’ll get through it

at some point. Danny is here today as well. Uh thank you, thank you, thank you. Hey ho, which is everybody at the top and I’m sorry it was a few minutes late. I there was one piece of video that I that I

had on my list that I was gonna put on the show today and I completely completely completely forgot and then so at the last minute I had to uh I had to do that.

Uh are people not hearing me? What do we got here today? Are we everybody’s good? Are we hearing me? Uh let me see cuz people were saying still no John yet. What is what time is it? 820, we’re at 821. Everybody sees me, right? Am I am I good? It says live. It says live. I think we’re good. All right.

Uh let’s go. All right, everybody can hear me. Okay. Let’s go down to episode 44, not down to. I had to go small print today because there was so much going on. So let me start with this. There’s thanks, rabbit hole 2.

I sound like Alex Trebek. Here are today’s categories. Thanks, rabbit hole 2, more conspiracy, Deebo Super Bowl, Marshawn, NFL mocks, NFL FA, GS/Utah played last night,

Jimmy Butler revisited, NOLA stories, random caboose, tongue guy, there’s a two next to that and what do I put at the bottom? Open door. Oh, that that’s a caboose story.

Does that say open door? I believe that says oopendoor. It’s supposed to say open door. Anyway, uh that is what we have on the agenda today. It is a lot. But let me start with a thank you

because this is really cool. And I told you this yesterday. I’m not gonna sit here and and tell you how great my kid is or anything. It’s kind of like Facebook. No, he like a few pictures is fine. When you start saying your kids are geniuses at two, it’s like let’s slow down the train a little bit.

But so it it it’s seminal points of someone’s life you want to say, hey, just so you know, this is pretty cool. And then I I won’t sit here and talk about it the whole time cuz I think it can be annoying. If you tell me your kid

did something great, that’s cool, but you don’t have to tell me every day like every step he takes, every move he makes, things. So let’s uh I’m just gonna do this real quick. Just because people reacted to it. So my son uh I told you this yesterday, he got a gig all on his own.

He’s at Arizona State in the Cronkite Broadcast School and he says I’m thrilled to announce that I’ve accepted a summer writing internship with the Cape Cod League’s Brewster Whitecaps. I’m excited to join the squad and look forward to covering the team all summer.

He worked extremely hard to get it. He did it on his own. There was a bunch of different teams that weren’t returning calls and emails and he learned a really big life lesson which is there is a fine line between

persistence and annoyance. And I think he walked it perfectly and he got the gig and he’s gonna be on the Cape this summer, which is just really cool. And he’s a huge baseball guy, so he’s gonna write for a team and this is the wood bat league that leads into the draft and you see a lot of great players come from this league. So

it’s a really cool moment for him. And so then I uh tweeted out very cool. Uh let’s go. Alumni include for this particular team, Billy Wagner uh who just went to the Hall of Fame, Aaron Judge, Brent Rooker, Will Smith, Mark Canha, current Giants Mason Black, Lamont Wade Jr. and also some dude

at FightingHydrant back in 1988. So it’s pretty cool. It’s a pretty cool moment. He called me um maybe a day or two ago. I think I told you in the show yesterday, but he was extremely excited. I didn’t help him get this thing. He did it on his own and I was really proud of him. But not only that, as you could look to the bottom and I I put this on yesterday, so there’s probably more, but there was like 4000 4.5 whatever 4500

uh returns on it in terms of people that I know and listeners and viewers of the show and everything were like way to go, way to go, really cool. And it just made his day. Um and because so it wasn’t me. It was just people who saw that I put it out there and a lot of people

connected with him at GlundMedia and said, way to go kid, way to go kid. People didn’t even know him. And it just made his day. So I I’m not doing this so much as yeah, it’s a proud moment for me and it’s really cool and he’s advancing his career and doing all those kind of things in school and working hard. But it’s because people who watch the show reacted to him and made him feel great. And so it’s one thing for

that old dad to say, hey good job, I’m proud of you, keep it up. And then it’s a whole another thing on social media for people to reach out to him who don’t even know him and say, hey man,

we’re proud of you. That’s really, really cool. So I I don’t want to take too much of the show because there’s a fine line I said between persistence and annoyance.

There’s also a fine line between saying my kid did something cool and then it’s like, okay, we’ve acknowledged it, move on. So that’s where I think I am. So thank you very much. I I I want to say thank you to you

and everybody else because it made his day for people to reach out who he didn’t even know who said way to go, we got your back, we’re supporting you. That was just really cool. So thank you, thank you, thank you. That’s because of you, not me. All right, let’s move on to the rabbit hole. I’m not gonna do what I did yesterday and if you missed the rabbit hole show yesterday about why and this was not me. It was it was actually I was being forced to do this. Why Kansas City is great and so

I I’ll just revisit this quickly. Sorry, wrong one. Uh I’ll just revisit this quickly where a guy among many, many people hit me up with this yesterday. Are we watched the same game? Are we watched the same game?

And he was talking about the AFC Championship game and basically saying that the refs stole the game and the fourth down and all that. So you know yesterday if you watched the show, I went through a bunch of

players on the all 22 and hopefully not a boring fashion to just say, look, there were 40 plays that the Buffalo Bills could have made and didn’t make. And so there’s not a conspiracy theory and I was gonna drop it there and I wasn’t gonna bring it up again.

But then I read uh last night slash this morning, Dean Blandino, who along with my friend Mike Pereira are the uh preeminent people on TV in terms of talking about officiating. And then you see in the New York Post this morning, former NFL rules czar Dean Blandino, my brother is convinced I’m part of a Taylor Swift referee conspiracy to aid the Chiefs. And so even

members of families of people like this with Dean Blandino who’s been involved in the league for years and years are going, I know there’s a conspiracy theory for the teams. And as I explained to you in great detail yesterday, almost nauseatingly nauseating

in a nauseating fashion. Uh and I know you were screaming for me to stop and I won’t go down that road again and I’m not gonna go down the same road to say how great Kansas City is cuz I already did that. It’s annoying after a while.

So I’m not doing that. It’s just my point is is that here this guy who is involved in the league and is probably going to Thanksgiving and all sorts of dinners and family events to say over and over and over again that it’s not a conspiracy and here’s why he still has members

of his own family who think it’s a conspiracy theory that a random city in the Midwest would be the con conspiracy capital of this league of this multi-billion dollar league and not a place like New York or LA or Chicago or San Francisco, the major markets where

if you look at it right now, like let’s say the NFL wanted to have a conspiracy theory. Why do both teams in New York suck? Like let’s not let the facts get in the way. But New York is the number one media market in the country. Wouldn’t you want the Jets or the Giants, at least one of those teams to be good?

What were they this last year? Complete and utter dumpster fires. What have they been for the majority of the last 10 years? That. They’ve been absolutely awful, both those teams. So if there was a conspiracy the theory in the league,

wouldn’t you think that maybe both New York teams wouldn’t suck all the time and could be complete dumpster fires? Hmm, okay. Uh LA, the Rams, they went to a Super Bowl a few years ago, but and that’s media market number two. They’re okay. They’re not overly compelling. They got an interesting head

coach. Stafford’s kind of cool. Whatever, pretty good defense, but they’re not overwhelmingly anything. The Chargers get Jim Harbaugh, that’s kind of neat, but they haven’t been relevant as far as trying to win a championship

forever. When’s the last time they were in the Super Bowl? 94. And so we’re complaining about the Niners. What’s market three? Chicago. What have the Bears done in the last number of years? Nothing. Wouldn’t you have think that if there was a conspiracy theory and they had the

third pick which turned into the second pick because of the trade with the 49ers that maybe somebody whispered in their ear. Mahomes was pretty good. They took Mitch Trubisky. Fourth largest market in the uh NFL is San Francisco. When’s the last time we won a Super Bowl here?

1994. It’s it’s what? 30 years? I mean I can go on and on. What’s market number five? Dallas. How are the Cowboys doing? They doing pretty good? Jerry Jones, Dallas Cowboys, are they good? I’ll double check. Nope, they weren’t in the playoffs. So that that’s the top five media markets in the country.

New York, uh LA, uh Chicago, uh San Francisco this last season, not so much. Haven’t won a Super Bowl in 30 years. And Dallas is media market number five.

Uh if you were gonna have a conspiracy theory, you would probably do better in the major markets, right? Like if you were gonna write these scripts that everybody’s talking about, uh the NFL is scripted. If the NFL was scripted, why are the top five markets, the biggest media markets, the most money, the biggest corporate sponsors,

wouldn’t you want those markets to be okay? Oh just okay. I mean maybe one of the New York teams being irrelevant, maybe, I don’t know. Not have Daniel Jones as their quarterback or Drew Lock. Hey, it’s time to veto. Like somebody like that, wouldn’t you want anybody out of those top five markets to be pretty good?

Uh it’s just me. And Philadelphia is a large media market and they’re in the Super Bowl, so there’s one. But the top five media markets in all of the NFL

either really, really bad or just or and maybe the Rams case, the best team of the bunch. Just okay. And not overly compelling. So anyway, and that’s just another I don’t mean to go down the rabbit hole. I didn’t want to go down the rabbit hole, but when you see stuff like that and you say, okay,

I get it and we get emotional and we start drinking and we’re watching the games and everything’s about Patrick Mahomes and Kelsey and and you know pop singers and all that kind of stuff. But the reality of it is and Taylor Swift, the reality of it is if you were going to have a script, if you were going to have a rabbit hole, if you were going to have a conspiracy,

one of the top five markets would be relevant. And remember in the case of LA and New York, there’s two teams in those markets and they’re not overly relevant. And especially the largest media market, nothing is relevant about those two teams. Okay. I stop. But I’m just I’m sorry. I just wanted to to I just had to kind of do that a little bit one more. So that’s rabbit hole and I’m gonna try to stay up because my buddy yesterday said, well I never know where you are on the chalkboard.

So okay. We acknowledged it’s episode 44. I said thank you for your reaction to George getting his summer internship. Uh more conspiracy is what I just went over and rabbit hole, we’re done with that.

Uh Deebo’s pretty funny. Let’s do this. Uh let me play the Deebo and then I’ll get out to some of the comments. And by the way, you can always hit us up in the comment line on YouTube. I’m watching the comments too uh stream down on Instagram and X as well. And uh remember you can always remember. Remember you can always go to JohnLundUnleashed.com. All right, let’s uh

let me play this from Deebo. This was pretty funny. I think it was he was on with uh Roma Dounsay and then Deebo also has uh a young lady that kind of controls his uh his podcast and so she’s on there as well. But here’s Deebo when asked

who he wanted to win Super Bowl 59.

Man, they were just running straight race routes. And then like I Doctor Show ready from um as you can see they just been they just been dogs all year long. Um for us, you know uh kind of recap of the Bills and and and the Chiefs game is just like every time Pat Mahomes caught him in man to man, they were just running straight race routes. And then like I mean you you gonna get picked. So I was just like winner there like gonna pop out in zone just didn’t third, but it never happened, but you you always gotta you gotta tip your head off to the Chiefs for sure. Always finding a way to win. Um so we got uh the Chiefs and the Eagles. You know I got love hate for both. Um but you know I got all love for my brother um AJ Brown over there, so I definitely want to see him win. I definitely don’t want to see Mahomes get the third one. Um

I mean don’t you think as as he’s kind of thinking and saying that, aren’t we all kind of in the exact same boat that Deebo’s saying because he’s got a friend in AJ Brown. AJ Brown went to Mississippi and all those guys were in the SEC at the same time. DK Metcalf and AJ Brown and all those really good receivers and Deebo, South Carolina and they’re kind of friends, but he’s still going back and forth because I think he’s like 49ers fans.

I don’t like Philadelphia fans. I mean anybody who went back and and uh either attended or covered those games back in Philadelphia, those fans are not pleasant. That’s an unpleasant place to go and Brock got hurt and all those memories. So it’s not like and you’re competing with them in the NFC and I got news for you.

Next year you’re gonna comp be competing with Philadelphia. They’re not going anywhere. Philadelphia’s got a ton of young talent. We know that. So you’re gonna be competing with Philadelphia. So this Super Bowl is one of those things where you might and this is where I am and you tell me if I’m wrong here and I could be, but everybody’s different. So this isn’t like this isn’t math, this isn’t a one answer equation.

This is more something like when you sit on your couch you’ll decide. I was thinking about this morning before the show. So yeah, I don’t want Kansas City to win.

I don’t want Patrick Mahomes to win. I don’t want Taylor Swift to win. I I’ve kind of had it. We’ve talked about this before, just like teams had it with the with the Warriors when they were winning too much. You get to a point where it’s like, okay, when Kansas City won their first obviously win against Niners,

you weren’t really happy about it, but everybody else around the country was like, well, damn, won a Super Bowl in forever. It was kind of cool. Was it 45 or whatever the years were. But then I’m looking at the Eagles and I’m saying, well I’m not an Eagles guy. I I don’t like their fan base. I sure as hell don’t like their coach Nick Sirianni. So when I start weighing it back and forth, it is not as simple as because everybody’s got their own reasons.

But it’s not as simple as well, Kansas City keeps winning and they’re obnoxious and I’ve had it and Taylor Swift and Kelsey and and Mahomes and all these different things and I’m sick of it. So I’m just gonna root

against Kansas City, not for Philadelphia, but against Kansas City and I’m starting to weigh out now. I know I’m overthinking this whole thing is well I don’t like Nick Sirianni and I don’t like the fan base of the Eagles and I’m not a big, you know, there’s a lot of different things I’m really not a fan of. And they are let’s be honest, if you’re sitting there as a 49ers fan sitting in the Bay Area this morning,

which a lot of our listeners and viewers are, that’s a much more of a chief rival than what the Chiefs are. Now I know that they’ve ripped your heart out as a Niners fan and maybe that’s where the the bottom line is to this whole thing for you where look they’ve ripped our hearts out twice in a Super Bowl that we believe we should have won if you’re a 49ers fan. So I get that and that may override everything. But this is not an easy Super Bowl to say I definitely will because I do think that when I sit down to on my couch to watch, I I

I know it’s a root against not root for situation, but I don’t know that I can root against or against Chiefs for Eagles kind of a situation. I’m just I’m not an Eagles guy. So we’ll see because it really is the emotion right when you sit down. You can think one thing, but then when you sit down and you go, uh Eagles, obnoxious Nick Sirianni, it’s gonna be tough for me either way. So I’m gonna go out and and hear what people have to say.

Okay.

And then we’re going to get into, this is going to be really cool, I believe. We’ll play the Marshawn video for you in just a second because that’s how we have the order and that’s where we are if you’re just tuning in.

I’m going to do a better job of keeping you abreast of what we’re doing here and where we are in the chalkboard because I was told that yesterday by a friend.

Would you tell us where you are in the chalkboard and I might got to jump around the chalkboard.

Uh, after that we’ll do some NFL mocks and NFL free agency and not just any mock, not any free agency fits.

Because I tell you this all the time, it’s about fit, it’s about connection, it’s about who knows who, it’s about who has coached who and rather than just randomly go out, I’m going to try to put some education behind this.

Rather than randomly go out and say I want this guy or draft this guy or this guy will fit or that guy will fit. Let’s try to think like an NFL team fit uh things.

And to try to give us a better idea of maybe what direction the 49ers or your team will go.

All right, let me go back, let me go through the uh stuff here.

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let’s see, should, could, would.

Uh, little congratulations for my son. Thank you very much.

All Eagles after Chiefs.

And again, I’m not saying,

here’s what’s great about this conversation. There is no right or wrong answer. Everybody is individual in the way that they’re thinking and I completely respect that fact.

If I say, you know, it’s hard to root, you’re just saying, they’ve ripped out our heart twice, I totally get it.

Totally get it. So, just, just saying, like it’s not like there’s a right or a wrong answer here. It’s just kind of how you feel.

Uh, see there’s Hey Su saying I’d rather see the Chiefs win.

Now I think if, I’m, I’m going to speak for the fan and as I always say, that’s a dangerous proposition for me, but just before looking at anything, even though I’ve looked at a couple, but before looking at the majority of the responses,

I’m going to say that it’s 80 20 Eagles for Eagles. 80 20 or 80 20, this is a more apt way to put it.

80 20 against Kansas City in this room. That’s what I think, but I could be wrong. So you let me know.

Uh, F Philly go Chiefs, there’s another one. Philly fan doesn’t deserve a Lombardi. Reluctantly rooting for KC. This is interesting because like I said, I thought it was going to be 80 20. We’re early into this, but that’s interesting.

Uh, interesting. Uh, Deebo isn’t very good at hosting a podcast. I have a great, I, I think I’ve told you this story before on Deebo, but I’ll tell it just one more time and I’m not, I don’t dislike Deebo.

Um, he’s a unique individual when it comes to dealing with the media. Certain guys like, I think George Kittle often does.

Uh, I do scratch my head sometimes having done this for many, many years. It’s really easy to appease us.

You know, a couple of things here, a couple of things there and then we kind of get off your back and we leave you alone.

Buster Posey was an interesting guy and that Buster, if you turn the mics off and you turn the cameras off, Buster was a really, really fun and all, this will make sense. This will all pull back to Deebo and the NFL, I swear. We’re not going off on a tangent about baseball here.

But Dee, but Buster Posey was a really, really cool guy.

And he would laugh and tell jokes and he was really funny. You could see that in the Toyota commercials and so forth. But he didn’t want to show us that from a media standpoint because if you’re too nice, if you give us too much, if you’re too much George Kittle, then we constantly run towards your locker or space and some guys don’t want that.

And so they could be that nice guy and that guy that gives you all these different funny quotes and everything like Kittle, but Kittle likes it.

Certain guys don’t mind it, but they don’t want to be that guy that’s, that’s, you know, your go-to because then they’ve got all this work to do and all these, you know, especially as a catcher, like you got to talk to pictures and watch this and do that and you just got a lot on your plate and it’s like, I don’t want to be go-to guy in the locker room too. So or the clubhouse. So, you know, even though he was great behind the scenes, he just didn’t want to be that guy.

As far as Deebo is concerned, he’s strange because you always like to know what you’re going to get. So in other words,

I’ll go way, way, way, way, way back to when I was covering the Portland Trail Blazers in the early 2000s and Rasheed Wallace would only talk to African-American reporters. He would color in his Jerry West, it was a black sock because they were black and red. He would take the white of the Jerry West and he would take a Sharpie and he would, he would color it in black.

And so one of the local newspapers, it was called the Oregonian, they had to, to assign an African-American reporter because Rasheed Wallace wouldn’t talk to any white reporters, which is his, whatever, you could do whatever he wanted. It was just, so my point in saying that is, is not to say that Rasheed Wallace is a bad guy. He is what he is. I’m not having an opinion on it. All I’m simply saying is is that

when it came to Rasheed Wallace, you knew, I didn’t even go over to Rasheed Wallace’s locker. I’d never done anything to Rasheed Wallace. I was a young reporter. We had never really spoken other than maybe I was in a scrum holding a microphone, but I just knew Rasheed Wallace wasn’t going to talk to me. So I didn’t waste my time going over to Rasheed Wallace. There were certain guys who were go-tos who were hilarious and you knew you could get a quote from.

Everybody’s in a scrum needing something. A TV guy needs a quick funny quote, a radio guy maybe needs a two-minute clip, you know, a, a, a columnist is looking for a certain angle that he’s writing on that specific night. So it was just, and you knew where to go.

So whether it was covering like I said, the Blazers, the Jazz, the Detroit Lions, the San Francisco 49ers, the Dallas Cowboys, any of these teams that I’ve covered throughout the years, there were certain guys in the clubhouse or the locker room that you knew that, okay, depending on what I need tonight here, this is the guy that I’m going to go to and these are the guys that really aren’t going to give me anything and that’s fine.

Everybody’s got a different personality. When it came to Deebo, and the only reason I’m on this tangent is because uh 59/84 said, uh Deebo’s not very good at this podcast. Certain guys, certain guys are and certain guys aren’t. And so we’re at the, first of all, he’s, you know, sometimes you could get a lot of great stuff out of Deebo, sometimes he’s in a bad mood and doesn’t want to talk to the media at all. That’s just how, how Deebo is.

But we’re down in LA at the Super Bowl. It was at the, it was Bengals, Rams Super Bowl, so whatever, four or five years ago, whatever the case may be when Duquesnay dropped me, I know.

So we go down to the, you know, he’s on radio row, which is now media row at the Super Bowl and usually what happens is that these guys and it’s hard, and what we do is we call it the car wash. These guys are have probably been on, some, by the time they see us, depending if we get them late in the day, early in the day. So we started, you know, obviously we at back in the day with Pop and I, we would start at 10 o’clock in the morning and if we got guys at, you know, right at 10 o’clock in the morning or whatever, or you know, maybe up till noon,

you know, they were fresh and good. By the time it was like four or five o’clock and these guys get paid a lot of money to do this. They go on, they talk for 10 minutes about, you know, sports or football or whatever their, their thing is and then there’s a, you know, hey, that old spice that you got going right now is great deodorant. For 60 seconds they talk about Old Spice and they got an Old Spice t-shirt on. And so, you know, sometimes you get them early and they’re fresh and they’re great and sometimes it’s their last interview of the day and they’re like, oh my god, like Ryan Leaf we had in Indianapolis and he was, he was drug Ryan Leaf and he couldn’t even make any sense. He was stumbling through things. I’m looking at the handler for each person and going, hey, you got to get him off the air.

So it just would depend a lot of times when you would get a guy of how good they were. Some guys could just do it all day long and they were great. Other guys it was like, you could tell they were at the end of their rope. They had done 25 shows and they were like, we’re, I’m done here. So we got Deebo somewhere in the middle, but what happens is is that if you see that it’s a hometown broadcast, whether it be TV, radio, whatever the case may be,

they usually perk up, especially when you’re doing the show with Papa because they know, they know Greg. They, they know that, you know, this is kind of a, a hometown sanctuary. We’re not going to ask silly stupid questions. We’re going to have a little bit of fun. We know you. We’re not going to ask you the basic stuff. And so they usually, they pep up. And I’ve told you this before, Aldon Smith, Colin, uh, you know, Kaepernick, all these different guys we had on through many, many, many years, Eddie DeBartolo, Jed York, like all these at all these different Super Bowls, maybe 15 that we did,

you would do all these different interviews, some of them were like, uh, jeez. But a lot of them when you got the hometown guys, it was just a lot of fun. It was more fun than most. So Deebo in LA, kind of stumbles through it. He’s kind of giving us the short word answers. He’s not really giving us a lot. He’s staring at the microphone, staring down and it just wasn’t a good day to have Deebo on. I’m not ripping Deebo. I’m just saying it was just

having talked to him a lot of times, it was just like, okay, we’re not going to get the good Deebo. That’s fine. Maybe he’s at the end of his rope. The only reason I bring up Old Spice is because he did have an Old Spice t-shirt on.

I asked his handler later, I said, well what time did Deebo get here? He said he started doing these interviews at about eight o’clock in the morning. I think we got him at about 1:00 p.m. So he’s about five hours into this, so I get it. I get it that, that, that Deebo’s not in the best of mood. It’s after five hours and so he’s in a crummy mood.

The only thing that got me of that day was that there was a guy who was a handler of another personality or of another guest that was going around to all the shows and he had popped away from his guest for a minute who was sitting at the table next to us doing his, his interview with another radio or TV station and he had a really cool custom-made sweatshirt on that said Deebo Knows, kind of like Bo Knows, or like a Bo Jackson thing and it said Deebo Knows.

And he had, it was black and he had a, like a silver Sharpie and as Deebo got up from our table to go to his next interview with his handler, I’m like, hey Deebo, we’re going to the next one. The guy just said, hey Deebo, sorry to bother you real quick and he could see the sweatshirt.

Guy’s a big fan. The guy goes, yeah, I’m a big fan. He said, can you sign my sweatshirt? Deebo looked at him like in a disgusting manner like, how dare you approach me and went chuckled and walked off.

That’s how I thought that was kind of a crummy thing to do. But again, it’s not because I don’t like Deebo. That’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is is that you just catch people at certain times and you just don’t know whether a guy is going to be in a good mood, bad mood. I don’t know what happened. I don’t know what he ate for breakfast. I don’t know if he got uh, you know, in a disagreement with his wife or girlfriend. You just don’t know.

But on that particular day, it just was not a, it was just not a good day. So I felt bad. I was like, I felt so bad for that guy.

But anyway, that’s how I told the story. All right, let’s get to, we were at Deebo SB, which is his Deebo Super Bowl predictions.

I meant to play this yesterday, but uh it was too, there was just too much going on between Tongue Guy, between

the food that we talked about between conspiracy theories that I had to try to correct but probably didn’t work, rabbit holes all that.

We never got to this, but this is pretty funny. So Pete Carroll gets hired by the Raiders, of course, and he does his press conference and I don’t think anybody realized that in the back of the room because everybody seemed confused by this.

He might have seen it where Marshawn Lynch is in the back of the room and he yells Raiders and and everyone’s like, who in the hell is that? And even Pete Carroll doesn’t know that it’s that it’s Marshawn Lynch. Here you go.

Marshawn Lynch attended Pete Carroll’s #Raiders introductory press conference.

fans come from. We do want to fill our stadium up with our guys. I know that we have a good draw for people from out of town.

There you go. There you go. That’s what I’m talking about.

See like Pete’s like, who let the fan in?

People in the media are looking back like what’s going on? It’s Marshawn Lynch sitting in the back of the room. How did you not know then then you know they they showed it a little bit later.

And anyway, so Pete’s completely confused. He’s showing his age at 73 like, yeah, there we go.

Now on what he said there, which is kind of an interesting thing because I don’t know if you’ve been to Allegiant Stadium.

It’s it’s exactly what we thought, which was, you know, when you went into because I worked for the Raiders for years, when you went into uh the Coliseum, you knew what was going to happen. It there was fights around and they made it they made it much better, but I did pre and post game for the for the Raiders.

And pregame was on a big stage in the middle of RaiderVille.

And you could look to the left and the right and I mean if other teams, they feared going into that place. They they feared going into that place and it was at times very nasty.

I remember a Patriots game after uh you know after the whole whole situation there and it was not happy. It was it was not good that they were there. There was a Jets game I remember back in the Darren McFadden days and it was nasty and there’s just he just had this fear and now you go to Las Vegas and as Pete Carroll said there,

they’re hoping to get some people into their into their place that’s where in silver and black. And the thing that I noticed, I’ve been probably

three or four games, two 49ers games and then of course covering the Super Bowl last year. And it couldn’t be more different than the Coliseum if you haven’t been there.

Uh one of the first time I went there, I wasn’t sure which doors I go around to the back where the media is.

And it just so happens that if you’re as you’re passing uh this area to get to the media area, which is in kind of a what is it, southwest corner of the stadium.

There’s this a drop off area and it’s purely limousines and high-end and high rollers and stuff like that and they’re going to that. So there’s not really a black hole that it’s kind of ish but not even near what it was in Oakland.

But the other side is I’m sure you know is a nightclub. And so there’s a specific entrance for that nightclub and that’s where all the limos and everything like that.

And these people get out and it’s like three or four girls in really high boots and really short skirts and then like an old guy, you know, who’s who’s obviously flipping the bill for the whole thing.

And it just it’s just it is. It’s total Vegas. It looks it’s like a nightclub in Vegas in the middle of the day. And I just stood there for like a couple of minutes and watched the whole thing. It’s nothing like I’ve seen at any NFL stadium and having done this for many many years.

It’s just like nothing you’ve ever seen. So Pete Carroll can say that he hopes to get, you know, real NFL fans in there and real Raiders fans in there and maybe at some point if they ever win, which I highly doubt.

Although I think Pete Carroll’s a decent choice there. But I I they’re not gonna they’re not gonna even if they win at a really high level.

If you’re let’s just say for the sake of conversation because Philly’s playing in the Super Bowl. Philly’s their fans are gonna fly across the country, go to Vegas for a big weekend and then they’re gonna go to the game. And it’s right there if you stay at any of those what is it, south end uh hotels.

There’s a walkway right to the hotel. It’s the easiest thing you could ever do and it’s always going to be for the Raiders at best like a fifty-fifty proposition. It’s gonna be a road game. It’s just because all the other fans given how tickets are sold nowadays.

All these other fans and if you have season tickets to the Raiders for example. And you have some of these hardcore fan bases coming in.

You can get three, four, five, ten times your your face value for these because they want to come across the country and go to Vegas.

And as we talk about all the time, not only are our games monopoly money. So any game that you go to in professional or even college sports nowadays is kind of like monopoly money you’re just throwing it around.

If you combine that with a weekend in Vegas, that’s the ultimate monopoly money. So we’re gonna pay whatever for the tickets. We’re gonna spend a bunch of money on food and gambling and drinking like with

we’re just going like this. It’s just all like crazy. So you can make a ton of money. So it especially for teams not winning, but even if they are, it’s like look,

in one weekend of a team with a hardcore fan base, you know, Pittsburgh, the 49ers they dominated that stadium in the couple of games that I’ve been there with the 49ers and Raiders. Any of those any big time fan base

is gonna pay whatever it costs and they’re not gonna get fans, they’re not gonna get their fans in the building like it used to be

at the Coliseum. I don’t know if you care about that or not. All right, let’s get to this.

Let’s get to some free agent talk.

Because it it obviously the Super Bowl is the big thing and we’ll certainly do a ton from the Super Bowl next week and we have correspondence and doing all that kind of stuff. So we’ll we’ll get a bunch from the Super Bowl.

But obviously for the majority of the teams that are around now, uh there is it’s it’s all about free agency. It’s all about uh the draft. It’s all about that stuff. So yesterday amongst all the things we talked about,

I popped up a couple of the mock drafts like Daniel Jeremiah. Tuesday is generally mock draft day, so there’s tons of stuff. So for example, I’ll just go back for a second.

So this was yesterday. There’s uh there’s Daniel Jeremiah who I have a ton of respect for. Uh Armand Membou who is a 6’3″ 315 pound guard slash tackle. I doubt they take that uh an offensive lineman in the first round. That’s not what the 49ers do. You and I had that conversation yesterday. But then it comes out on ESPN and this is this is where it gets fun, right? This is where it gets fun.

Their top 50 free agents came out on espn.com.

And I’m gonna go through a few of these because what do we know that the 49ers need? Well they need offensive lineman, specifically interior offensive lineman, guards, center. Uh Banks is gonna leave left guard.

I would really like it if they replaced Brendel at center, which I think they’re gonna do.

Uh if you want McKivitz replaced at right tackle, it could happen, but it’s doubtful. It looks like Trent’s gonna come back and obviously you have Dominic Puny. So if you want to be that team and we’ve talked about it a ton of times.

If you want to be that team and there’s gonna road great other teams like Philadelphia does, like the Rams do, like teams in the like the like the Lions do, the top of the NFC and you want to run the ball, stop the run and punch people in the mouth, then you better start in the trenches. We have talked about that a million times.

So this is actually I hadn’t really looked at the free agent class. This is actually a pretty good free agent class as far as the 49ers and before we get to that, I know what is in the back of your mind right now. Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa Lund.

Have you forgotten that there is a financial element to all of this.

And the 49ers have to resign Brock Purdy and they want to sign Drake Greenlaw and you know there’s guys they need to resign, but it starts with Brock Purdy. They’re not gonna have any money Lund. You’re crazy.

Okay, a couple of things that have happened and the 49ers do as good of a job as anybody does in manipulating and massaging the salary cap, which is a fluid instrument.

All right? It it it’s it’s a moving organism is what it is. And so

what they did if you missed it is because they were planning for Brock Purdy because they knew that this was gonna happen and because the a lot of of people in the NFL who are already singing the demise and celebrating the demise of the 49ers and again, I you know this and this is one of the reasons I did what I did yesterday

in defending the Kansas City Chiefs. If you’re new to the show, I realize that I’m sitting in the Bay Area, but I’m not it’s not my job to be a homer. It’s not my job to to to pull out pom-poms and go, woo woo woo go go go. It’s that’s not my job.

What my job I think to you and what I owe you for taking the time to tune into the show, view the show, listen the show, however you’re whatever platform you’re using to get to us

is that I owe you the truth. I owe you the way I see it. I owe you because of my experience and the people I know and all these kind of things to give you as best of the truth as I can. And then you can decipher it however you want. So

here’s the deal. They do a great job at manipulating massaging the cap. They rolled over $50 million dollars to this year’s cap, which is tremendous, very smart. They know what they’re doing. They’re one of the better teams at it. So they had the most money to move over from year to year, which you can do in the NFL. So they they start with a $50 million dollar head start, which is pretty pretty really good. I was gonna say pretty good, which is really good. It’s number one in the league.

So to say that they’re not gonna have any money. Now are they gonna be first day spenders? Are they gonna go after Javon Hargrave for $80 million dollars and I’m just saying Hargrave because a couple years ago,

they shocked us all on the first day of free agency where normally the teams are really bad because they drafted poorly. So they didn’t resign those guys. So now they have a bunch of money and now they resign free agents and give them tons of money and they still stink and people go, how do they they sign all these guys? Why do they still stink?

Because you’re you’re you’re going out on the first day, which is not what the best teams do. So the Niners are not gonna do that. I’m not saying they have that kind of money. But what I’m saying is is that they are not gonna be hamstrung.

They’re not gonna they’re it’s not like they’re gonna say we can’t sign anybody.

And remember, you know this too, but I’ll just remind you that Brock Purdy’s deal is not gonna go 50, 70, $80 million dollars. It’s gonna go probably 15 or 20, then it’s gonna go 25, then it’s gonna go 30 and then as the cap continues to rise.

Yeah, there’s gonna be a a number in there that’s gonna make you choke by the third or fourth year of about $70 million dollars and you’re gonna go.

But also keep in mind if you watch the show on a regular basis that seven years ago, Jimmy Garoppolo was the highest paid quarterback in the league at 25 million.

said that and and when Patrick Mahomes got forty-five or fifty everybody freaked out and he’s actually underpaid.

So it moves so fast, especially in the quarterback front that when he does actually get that number, that cap number hits the forty-niners

and it you’re gonna see it, you’re gonna want to vomit and go, how are we possibly ever gonna design anybody or keep anybody or

it’s just not gonna be that way because the way that the cap moves. So I I don’t I don’t want to give too much of a of a back lesson because you’re like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the finances, we hate that part.Just tell us who we’re getting.

Totally understand that. But I just want you to know that they are not hamstrung to the level of they can’t do anything

just because they’re gonna take a guy who was making a million dollars and at least in the first year it’s gonna hit the cap at maybe twenty,

which is still a big increase. So with that as the backdrop, let me start here and this is not a forty-niners related situation, but let me just start here.

which is this. Uh Sam Darnold to me is intriguing. Is he coming back to the forty-niners? No, he is not.

But the only reason I bring this up is if you see the rank, this is uh ESPN’s top fifty rank and they put Darnold sixth.

He’s intriguing to me in that he I think is gonna go probably to the Raiders as we just said. It doesn’t sound like he’s gonna go back to Minnesota, which I think is a massive uh

what’s the exact term? It it’s just it’s the wrong move for Minnesota, but that’s great for the forty-niners.

I think they’re gonna bring in JJ McCarthy who’s unproven

and as you see Jeremy Fowler says at the bottom there, Baker Mayfield range, it’s about three and a hundred.

So the Raiders and Giants, he’s not going to the Giants.

You think that Sam Darnold who got out of New York and it ruined his confidence is gonna go back to New York? I just don’t see it.

So I could see the Raiders and with Pete Carroll they’re gonna try to run the ball and I could see Sam Darnold being fairly successful there. So

that doesn’t have to do with the forty-niners, but it does in the sense of if Minnesota’s gonna let him go at age twenty-eight in his prime and go JJ McCarthy, I think they’re gonna take a step back.

That’s the only reason I bring that up.

All right, so let’s go into free agents that would make some sense for the forty-niners both in a position of need

and as I said, I’m not just throwing darts against the wall. I love this guy. I love this guy. I love this guy. Let’s try to think a little bit deeper,

which is is there a connection with certain guys who would fill a need.

So let’s think about it. Guys who have played here, guys that the team has gone after in the past, guys who you know you have certain agents who would have a relationship with the forty-niners.

Um you’ve got Robert Saleh coming in, so are there any Jets maybe that he coached because remember where the special teams coordinator for the the new special teams coordinator for the forty-niners come from?

Brent Boyer. He came from the Jets who used to coach the Jets? Robert Saleh used to coach the Jets.

You know that. So there’s a there’s a big big reason why Brent Boyer is the free is the special teams coach of the forty-niners because Robert Saleh came in and said, hey Kyle, hey John, hey Powers to be, this guy’s really really good.

He survived three regimes in New York, different ones and nobody know nobody can do that.

So obviously he’s good at what he does. So that was a connection and therefore he’s the special teams coordinator of the forty-niners and had they not known him, I doubt he would be the special teams coordinator of the forty-niners.

So that’s how it works. So let’s start here. Um Khalil Mack is a guy that the forty-niners

went after and actually before he was traded to the Bears all those years ago by John Gruden and the Raiders and John Gruden said that he can’t have two twenty million defensive lineman, okay.

Um Khalil Mack was a guy that almost except for Mark Davis would never trade with the forty-niners, but he’d be a guy that the forty-niners had talked to.

No, and I know that he’s gonna be thirty-four years old, but in terms of a guy who could be across from Nick Bosa and not only give you sacks, not only give you an edge setter which they absolutely positively need in the run game and they haven’t had

and this guy can do it all in one and you could move Khalil Mack to the inside on passing downs to create that uh NASCAR package. So Khalil Mack’s on the inside, big and strong on passing downs.

Leonard Floyd goes on the outside in those kind of situations and Nick Bosa is across from everybody and so whether Khalil Mack is what he used to be on the Bears or the Chargers or the Raiders

is not really the point. As you see he had six sacks and forty-one pressures this season and has one hundred seven and a half as it says right there on the graphic. You have to account for him and you don’t know if you have to account for guys.

That’s almost as important as what they’ll do on the field. You have to account for Khalil Mack.

Now will Khalil Mack cost a ton of money? I don’t think so at the age of thirty-four. So you’ve got to put all these things together.Probably a short-term contract, wants to get some money upfront that’s guaranteed. The forty-niners can absolutely do that and they went after Khalil Mack once. They know Khalil Mack’s agent

and I think that the forty-niners this would make a ton of sense. Thirty-four, good player, he can play all three downs. He’s a great guy to have in your locker room and across from Nick Bosa and remember Joey Bosa knows Khalil Mack.Khalil Mack knows Nick Bosa. So there’s a connection in a lot of different ways for Khalil Mack and I’m sure Khalil Mack at the end of his career having played for a bad Raiders team,

a bad Bears team and a Chargers team that has just been okay would actually like to end his career with an organization that he believes could get to a Super Bowl and I know that they didn’t get even get to the playoffs last year,

but if you go back to to johnlundunleashed.com, you can see all the reasons I believe that the forty-niners will bounce back and again, not in a homer fashion,

but from the easiest schedule to twenty twenty-four, rookies getting better to Robert Saleh coming back to a new special teams coordinator to health, to all these different things.

I think the forty-niners are gonna win the NFC West. Now does that mean they’re gonna get to the Super Bowl? No.

But it does mean they’re gonna have a chance. They are a good organization and I could see Khalil Mack going, you know what?

I wouldn’t mind going there. So there’s one guy and it makes a lot of sense. Now this is a guy that a lot of people

have talked about and his dad played for the forty-niners, played at Stanford, grew up in the Bay Area. Again, I’m putting connections together, not just throwing darts up against the wall

and they need a center. So here’s Drew Dalman, twenty-seventh on the list of the top fifty. He’s only twenty-six years old, so he’s a guy that definitely you could

have for a number of years. Continuity along the offensive line is important, especially at the center position. So six three three hundred, he’s not the biggest guy, but as they say uh best suited for the zone run game.

What do the forty-niners run again? Please remind me.

Oh, a zone run game. And look at his pass block win rate, ninety-five point one percent.

What did the forty-niners struggle with and what does Brock Purdy struggle with? Middle pressure. Why? Because Brock Purdy’s not very big.

What do you not want to have when you have Brock Purdy as a quarterback?

Middle pressure. Drew Dalman wins ninety-five point one percent of the time, ninth among centers.

Dad played here, went to Stanford. Ding ding ding ding ding.

Tell everybody’s one Johnny. Hopefully a contract and it says right there, Lloyd Cushenberry’s four-year fifty million dollar deal with the Titans in twenty twenty-four.

Um that doesn’t seem like an outrageous contract. They say at the bottom, Chicago needs help, New England needs help. I get it and they’re gonna have more money. They’re those bad teams that need that have money,

especially New England with Drew Dalman went to Stanford, knows the niners, dad played here uh would he want to come home? There’s a connection there.

Niners need a center, need one that wins in the passing game and is a zone uh scheme center. A lot of connections to Drew Dalman. So that makes sense.

See where we’re going here? Now this one this next one I’m gonna give you and give me your thoughts on all these by the way. I’ll stop in the middle of this.

I’ll stop after this next one and get your thoughts on all this

stuff in the comment line. Um this next one is a complete flyer, but there is as I said, I none of these guys that I will pop up today will have no connection whatsoever because that’s what it’s about.

It’s about connection.

Now this guy washed out as a tackle in New York

and he played one year in Philadelphia. He is massive. He’s only twenty-six years old, twenty twenty top ten pick, six seven three sixty-three. So maybe maybe he doesn’t have the movement skills that they would need at guard for this offense.

But if you get Dalman, you still need a left guard because uh Banks is leaving. Uh he cashed in one year with the Eagles.

As it says, physical tools, frame framework blah blah blah blah blah entering his prime twenty-six.

Where did he play before the Eagles?

Played for the Jets. Robert Saleh coached the Jets. Now maybe Robert Saleh thinks that Mekhi Becton stinks.

I don’t know that part.

Maybe he does. But at six seven three sixty-three, they took him out of Virginia back years ago, so he obviously has some skill.

Uh they moved him into guard. The Eagles mash you to death. They had some running back named Saquon Barkley that had a pretty good year

and at times ran behind this guy. So again, there’s a connection there. Don’t know if he would have the movement skills that they would need in the zone scheme to have Mekhi Becton, but he absolutely crushes guys.

And the bonus for Becton is that the age of twenty-six, he was drafted as a tackle and the forty-niners like to have uh some flexibility among their offensive lineman.

Could he play guard? Could he play right tackle? Uh given his size, could he get better or would he go back out there and stink like he did with the Jets? So this one maybe maybe doesn’t make sense, but again, Robert Saleh coached the Jets.

And if Saleh thinks highly of the guy and he had a good year only one year, I don’t think he would be absolutely positively uh expensive and twenty-six is a nice age because maybe assign him to a long-term deal and he turns into something.

All right, I’m gonna go for a few more here in just a second. Do people like this kind of stuff? I always thought that they did.

I always think that people like uh speculating about free agents, draft and all that kind of stuff. So you can tell me if I’m a hundred percent wrong on this stuff. Um

Hey, there’s Rosemarie. I don’t know that I’ve seen Rosemarie before, but it is absolutely positively great to have you here. Thank you. Uh the bomb.

Look at that, right there. Thank you people. That makes my day to be honest with you.

Uh doesn’t Brock need short offensive lineman? That’s a good point. Uh Becton six seven and he’s playing inside. Now if he’s playing outside, that’s not a problem, but that’s a great point

and I’m not saying these guys are perfect and I think that both you and I have established on the show that most free agents have flaws, right? Most free agents have flaws. Old, injured, ineffective, whatever the case may be.

There is not a perfect free agent. So even the guys that I’m gonna sit here and say, hey, maybe these guys fit, maybe there’s a connection here.They’re not perfect.No free agent is perfect. Uh even I’ll give you a great example when Drew Brees left the Chargers because they decided that Rivers was gonna be the guy.

He originally went to Miami and then they looked at his his uh rotator cuff there and said, nah, we’re not gonna sign him. Went to the Saints the rest of his history. So even a guy like Drew Brees who’s going to the Hall of Fame,

who if he hit the free agent market in his prime, which he did, I think he was twenty-six, twenty-five, something like that when the Chargers let him go. He had had that injury and they had already drafted Rivers and they didn’t think Brees could be the guy.

He had a major injury as great as he was. So you’re you’re never never is too strong of a word, but a lot of times you’re just not gonna get the free agent that is perfect. There’s always something wrong

of why a team didn’t re-sign him. So you bring up a great point on Becton and of of the group that I’m probably gonna show you, Becton might be the shakiest, but there is a connection with Saleh, which is why I brought it up.

So hopefully that makes sense.

Uh But John, how do we get Giannis?

That’s a great question. Uh I don’t know how the how you get Giannis. Uh I don’t think Giannis is coming here and I know that we’ve had that for a long time, the honest conversation.

I will get to Jimmy Butler in a moment.

By the way, if you’re just joining the show, I’ve been told I’ve got to do a better job in keeping everyone aware of where we are on the chalkboard.

So again, we’re past the rabbit hole, we’re past the conspiracy, we’re past Deebo,

we’re past Marshawn. We didn’t really do NFL mocks even though I have a few more of those. We are at NFL FA, NFL free agency.

That’s where we are just to keep everybody up to date. Uh see there you go.

Dalman is the guy they need. I think that’s somebody they’re gonna target.

Maybe I know something. No, I don’t. I don’t know anything about that. I haven’t talked to anybody yet about anything.

Yeah, you’re one hundred percent right. JJ Raider, Mack had six games. I remember in Denver if I’m not mistaken. It’s the most dominant performance.

I think I’m seeing I think they won that game what twelve six, twelve ten in that range and it was just like, what? Are you kidding me?

Ridiculous. All right, let’s see uh what love.

Oh McMillan, you’re talking about the wide receiver out of Arizona. Yeah, I love that kid.

Hey, he’s not he’s well, you know, we’re I can guarantee you this, Law of awe. I can guarantee you this that there’s gonna be a guy that’s sitting there going, how the hell did he get to eleven?

Take that guy. So maybe it could be McMillan the big receiver out of Arizona.

Um maybe somebody trades up to get him if that that’s on the on the on the clock. Believe me, the niners are always a team that is gonna trade down and while I sit here and I say of all the mocks and I think I said it yesterday,

that they’re not gonna take an offensive lineman or especially an interior offensive lineman

if they were to trade back a couple of times, then they could do that. I do think if we were gonna talk draft and we might as well for a second,

uh defensive line, there’s a lot of good interior defensive lineman that would fit especially where the niners are going to be in this draft

and I do believe that the niners are gonna look very very hard at guys like Walter Nolan out of Mississippi or uh Harmon the kid out of Oregon or you know Kenneth Grant the kid out of Michigan. I mean Mason Graham is not gonna fall that far, but again, if

somebody if if a Mason Graham for example was the guy who slipped through the cracks, they might even move up to get him.

They I mean they need interior defensive lineman.

But we’ll get into it.

So let’s go back.

All right, I checked on the people real quick. Let me go back to what we’re talking about. So I went through Mack, I went through Dalman, I went through Becton.

This guy I’m not as familiar with, but given the situation and we’re we all want Dray Greenlaw back. I get it, all right?

Love Dray, talking about guys in the locker room. Dray is always cool, Dray is always energetic, Dray is always positive.

Um from what I’ve heard, it is more likely now that because Robert Saleh is the defensive coordinator of the forty-niners that Dray Greenlaw comes back. I’ve also heard that

Dray is more realistic and understanding that because he played so little last year that he’s probably gonna have to do a make good contract for one year. He’s he’s coming to that uh reality even though he doesn’t really want to do that.

So um I’m just telling you what the latest is. Could things change? Yes, they could. But let me give you a name that I’m sure Robert Saleh likes uh he’s out of he’s from the Jets.

Jamien Sherwood uh he’s

only twenty-five and remember this team needs to get more athletic, younger, faster. That’s part of the charge for this season in in the off season especially defensively. So it says uh trending up, one hundred fifty-four tackles, ten tackles for loss, three pass breakups with the Jets.

It’s nice production. Downhill with speed. Forty-niners need more speed on defense. Can play downhill with speed, pursuing the edges, coverage upside too. That sounds like a niners linebacker right out of central casting.

Three down player, special teams coverage ability. Were they bad in special teams this year? I forgot. Oh yeah, they were the worst in football and his best football is ahead of him.

Now maybe somebody’s gonna snag him, maybe somebody’s gonna overpay him, but that sounds like central casting of what the forty-niners need. Speed, production, downhill, special teams abilities, three down can cover twenty-five years old.

I love Fred Warner. I do.

I love Dray Greenlaw. I do. But this guy at twenty-five, I I I I know people are gonna get mad at me over this because Dray brings so much to the table,

but this is a guy that Robert Saleh had with the Jets. I’m sure Robert Saleh likes with the Jets. Uh it says three different personnel evaluators brought up Sherwood to me uh blah blah blah watch for Atlanta features a lot of former Jets staffing or San Francisco where former Jets coach Robert Saleh now runs

the defense. So there’s a name to put in the back of your mind that nobody’s really talking about, but as much as I love Dray Greenlaw and I do and as much as I love Fred uh Fred Warner and I do,

both are getting older, both are getting slower, both are um I’m not gonna say this in Fred’s case, he’s not in his prime, but he’s pretty darn close.

But they need speed on defense, they need youth on defense, they need a jolt on defense and if he can give you a little special teams, that’s a bonus. Now could he get priced out of the range for the forty-niners?

He certainly could. But that’s a guy to keep an eye on right there that no I I don’t hear anybody talking about.

And there again, as I talk about often, is a connection with Robert Saleh rather than just throwing things against the wall. There’s a connection there with Robert Saleh.

Let me give you two more.

Two more and then we’ll move on and you give me your thoughts on all this stuff. This is the top fifty list from ESPN and on the chalkboard we’re on NFL FA, NFL free agency on the chalkboard today.

Uh James Daniels, the reason I bring up James Daniels is this.

Big, strong, he’s probably six five three thirty, but see the part right there that would probably give a lot of teams pause. A torn Achilles suffered in week four pushed Daniels down their rankings.

Run blocking upside when healthy. From weeks one to four, Daniels’ run block win rate of eighty-two point seven ranked second among guards behind the Colts Quenton Nelson. And over three seasons with the Steelers, Daniels had a pass block win rate of ninety-three point one.

So he does both.

He can mash you in the run game, he can protect the quarterback in the pass game and he’s only twenty-seven years old. Again, guys in their prime, that’s who win championships.

Guys in their prime. So when I look at the Warriors for example, I see a lot of young guys, I see a lot of old guys. I don’t see twenty-seven year old guys. When I’m the forty-niners and everybody wants to tell me from a national standpoint,

they’re too old, they’re too old, they’re too old. Well look at the age of the guys that I’m popping up here. James Daniels is twenty-seven. Sherwood the kid I just showed you is twenty-five. Becton another guy I showed you is twenty-six.

Dalman a guy I showed you is twenty-seven.

Uh Mack is older, there’s no question, but what they need here is an infusion of athleticism, youth and guys in their prime because that’s who wins championships. You can have older guys, you can have younger guys, but the majority of and if you look at all the sports, this is how it works.

There’s it’s kind of like, you know, the three bears. There’s too cold, too hot and just right.

Twenty-seven years old is just right and you need more of those guys in your roster than you have at this particular point. And if you have a win rate run in the run game and a win rate in the pass game, I like you.

And the torn Achilles might actually work in the niners’ favor because James Daniels normally in the prime of his career like that would be priced out of the forty-niners range.

So maybe you can go to this guy and go, dude, we could use you. Could you imagine a left side of Trent Williams, James Daniels, put Dalman at center, who needs your right guard?

Now you can complain all you want about the right tackle and that’s fine. I have.

But if you have those guys and you’ve just plugged guard and center with Dalman and Daniels, Trent comes back, Brunskill’s an all rookie guy. Now you can start running the ball again.

Now you can start running the ball again. And with the torn Achilles, maybe just maybe you get a discount on that kind of a guy and we’ll go back to the beginning if you just joined us because Brock Purdy is being signed to a big contract,

long-term, does not mean that the forty-niners are gonna be hamstrung. They rolled over fifty million dollars from last year to this year because they knew what was gonna happen and they didn’t want to just say we’re giving all this money to Brock and we’re not gonna be able to participate in free agency.

And none of the guys that I’ve shown you maybe outside of Mack who wants one last payday, so maybe that’s not gonna fit. But Dalman’s not gonna cost a ton, Becton’s not gonna cost a ton. Sherwood maybe because we just saw from the ESPN graphic

that there’s a lot of people who mentioned his name, but he would be a hell of a fit and he knows Robert Saleh and would like to play in this system and then Daniels.

Now are they gonna get all those guys? No.

And you can rank who you would like out of that group and again, I’ll just flash this real quick. Mack makes sense, Dalman’s got a connection

nection, Neita center.

Back then is probably my shakiest one, but again he played in New York and he knows or Solla knows him.

This guy I’d absolutely love and I’m sorry, the you’re probably gonna get mad at me if it was down to Sherwood and Dray Greenlaw, I’d probably take Sherwood.

Fast, 25, going into the prime of his career, has special teams abilities.

He knows Solla’s system, this guy would be a major, major player for the 49ers and help that defense.

And then a guy like Daniels who’s an absolute mauler and when healthy really, really good.

And is 27 years old, might have to do coming off an Achilles, which is the worst injury in sports, maybe a short-term deal, which would be nice.

So anyway, that’s those are some of the names that I saw on the top 50 list that have a would would combine a cut a uh a need with a connection to the 49ers.

And I don’t mean to keep saying this, but to go out and throw a bunch of stuff against the wall when you say to yourself, well there’s no real connection.

Now can you can you have no connection and still sign with said team?

Sure you can. You can make a connection, you can connect with a certain agent.

Um, I gotta go back and look at whose agent, but a lot of times what it is is who’s the agent.

Have you had success with that agent? So I’m gonna go back and look at some of those things as well.

But there is a scheme fit when it comes to Dolman and a connection, there is a scheme fit and a connection when it comes to the Sherwood kid.

You know, all these all these different things that you look at, there are connections there. And I think that when it comes to all the guys that I just showed you, there is a need and there’s a connection.

And in most cases outside of Mack, it’s a prime of career kind of a player. A 26, 27, 28, even in the Sherwood case, 25-year-old kid.

Which I can tell you for a fact that that is a that is part of the um goal for the 49ers in this off-season to get younger, to get more athletic, especially defensively, to get more players in the prime of their career.

Because as good as Trent Williams is, he’s 37 and as good as uh a guy like McCaffrey is, he’s at that certain age when it comes to running backs.

And when it comes to Warner, when it comes to Greenlaw, when it comes to those guys, they’re great, they’re really good players.

And when it comes to Leonard Floyd, but they’re not in the prime of their career like the 49ers want.

And logic tells you as I tell you all the time, you’ve got to have more of those guys.

There is a there’s a certain checklist when it comes to winning a championship and part of the checklist is how many guys on your roster are playing in the prime of their career.

And more times than not, if you look at it and I don’t care, it can be baseball, it can be basketball, it can be football.

You’ve got to have those guys who are playing in the prime of their career. It’s a combination of the stew or of the uh you know, of of the of the recipe.

As we showed you the recipe, that wonderful recipe yesterday of cheese, macaroni and cheese and sausage.

I think I vomited later after the show. Anyway, let me go in before I move to uh Golden State, Utah and Jimmy Butler and all that kind of stuff as we are an hour into the show.

Thank you very much for joining us and hanging out. Let me see what people thought of that of the uh of the conversation of who you like.

And if you look, if there’s somebody out there who you like and I didn’t put them on there, I just looked at the top 50 and I said, okay, here’s some connections here that makes sense.

And later on, I’ll pull this out. I’ll pull this segment that we just did out and we’ll save it for later and see how I did.

I probably went over. But we’ll see.

I hope that I hope I did a little bit better than that, but uh I feel like I haven’t reached my prime yet.

Me too. I feel the same way. Like people want to, you know, put me out to pasture and it’s like, I’m not even in my prime.

Uh, let me see here. That’s our good friend Steve. The Niners have let too many good players leave through free agency.

Yeah, look, they’re gonna lose I’m glad you brought that up, Steve.

They’re gonna lose Charvarius Ward, that’s a guarantee. His wife has PTSD. They’re likely gonna lose Talanoa Hufanga. He’s gonna be too expensive unless the the market is not gonna materialize like I think it is.

But Xavier McKinney seems to be the the comp for him, the Packers safety. He got a four-year, $69 million dollar contract.

They can’t afford that, especially because they have Mustafa to plug in there. Mustafa is that is that uh downhill safety which Hufanga is.

That’s gonna be him and Jared Brown’s the other one. So I don’t think they’re gonna spend money there.

Um, Dray Greenlaw, even if he wants to play ball, I’d look at a guy like Sherwood right there at 25. If their contracts are gonna be similar.

The 49ers have shown that they love guys, but the one thing they cannot tolerate is injuries.

And they loved Eric Armstead. Eric Armstead was the Walter Payton Man of the Year for this team for like three or four straight years.

They love Eric Armstead personally. He’s up in Sacramento. He’s from Northern California. He does tons of things for the organization, things that you don’t even know about.

And they wanted to keep him, but they just couldn’t. And that’s what it comes down to. And this organization is much more Bill Walsh than they are Al Davis.

You know, keeping guys around. They let Buckner go after a Super Bowl. They just they understand, you know, Jimmy Garoppolo, they didn’t hate Jimmy Garoppolo, but they got tired of him being injured.

So I like Dray Greenlaw. I think Greenlaw is understands the realization that he needs to sign a one-year make good deal, but if they can’t come to a realization before free agency starts to where they’re trending in the right direction with Dray Greenlaw, they’re gonna go out, they’re gonna look at that kid from the Jets that I just showed you.

It’s just a fact. Uh, hi Philip.

Yeah, I don’t have any Giants stuff for you today. I when and this is kind of and thank you so much for asking the question.

Um, we’ve said this on the show many times. What I’m trying to do is have the best topics every day and as you can see, I had to use small font there because there’s so much going on in the chalkboard.

That I there’s just nothing going on with the Giants and I think I was on with Crook Show yesterday and he was going on a rant about it.

And I’d love to talk about him, but because I’m not in the flagship with the Giants anymore, I’m not forced to talk about him and they’re just not doing anything and it’s frustrating and I understand that.

So I’ll acknowledge that part of it, but uh when something’s going on, believe me. I’m going to to talk about it, but I’m not I won’t do this.

I won’t come in here every single day and bitch and moan that they haven’t signed anybody. If they’re relevant, I’ll talk about them.

And that’s what’s kind of great about this about this uh this forum that we’re on now is we’re not really beholden to talk about anything, but anything that’s great.

That’s what we try to do is do the best things every single day. Um, let’s see. Oh, this is a great point. Hi Jazz fan. The uh Eagles went after Georgia Bulldogs.

49ers should go after all of the Ohio State guys. You know, there’s gonna be a ton of them. There’s at least three offensive lineman that will be drafted into the league this year.

Both of those running backs are great. Uh, Jeremiah Smith, the wide receiver is only a freshman, so he’s gonna be up for uh auction really for I mean, I think Oregon, I think a lot of teams are gonna go after him and pay him a ton of money.

But uh the other wide receiver is is gonna come into the league defensively. They’ve got the big Tyrique Williams, the big defensive lineman, 44, the edge guy.

Uh, they have a linebacker or two. They have at least two safeties and a corner coming out that are really good.

Yeah, there’s gonna be a ton of Ohio State guys.

Uh, Steve saying what on Dray Greenlaw, what is that? Uh, why would Dray Greenlaw come because Saleh is here? Why wouldn’t he go to the Texans and reunite uh plus he’ll be close to home.

I never understood that logic. Um, yeah, they they possibly need him. The Texans would have to want him. They’ve got a couple of linebackers. Of course, Al-Shair is there.

He’s a former 49er. They got the linebacker out of Alabama uh Tolo Tolo uh who’s a good linebacker as well.

It comes down to what Dray Greenlaw wants financially and I understand being close to home. I’ve said this a million times. I don’t know what home situations are for everybody.

Some people want to go home, some people don’t. I don’t think it’s an I don’t think it’s an accurate read just because someone’s from somewhere that they want to go back home.

I think it is much more of an accurate read and agents help in this way to go to a place that A you know somebody, B more importantly actually I should flip those.

A, the system works for you. So in other words, offensively or defensively, like an offensive lineman for example. The reason I brought up Drew Dalman is he’s a zone scheme center.

He’s not gonna go to a power scheme. It’s just not gonna that’s just not what he’s gonna do. So it makes sense. His dad played here. He went to Stanford.

They know him. He was around the organization boom boom boom boom boom. And he’s of a prime age. So that makes a whole lot of sense.

Then and and it’s not just okay, Drew Dalman wants to come home. Now maybe that’s part of the equation when the other three or four things are in place, but I don’t know that that’s necessarily the case.

Now having said that, Dray Greenlaw could sign with the Texans and he knows Demeco Ryans and one of the first things out of his mouth could be, hey, it’s cool to be close to home.

So yeah, I think that’s a perk, but as we found out with Aaron Aaron Judge and many other people, maybe home isn’t that great and it doesn’t mean it’s bad.

It’s just maybe Aaron Aaron Judge said, my home is in New York now. And I like going home to see my parents in Northern California and I don’t want to combine both of them.

We just don’t know. And a lot of times we look at hometown on some person and we think, well, obviously they want to go home. That’s not always the case.

You know, and for me, I’m I’m to the age where it’s like, I don’t know, I’m kind of a gypsy. I don’t know if my where’s my home? Where does it say I’m from? What’s my hometown?

You know, like I’m originally from Los Angeles. I was born in a hospital in LA. Do I want to go home to LA? My family isn’t there anymore. I have lots of friends whom moved to LA, but not necessarily that were like childhood friends of mine.

It’s, you know, if I went back there, it wouldn’t be because that’s home to me, you know, San Diego’s a really cool place. So, you know, that’s kind of a neat, you know, I like the beach and everything, but it it’s not because it’s home.

So yeah, we I think a lot of times, especially when it comes to sports, let’s throw me out of it. What does it matter what I like or think.

But in terms of being home, for some guys, yeah, it’s a major thing. My mom is still there, this that or the other. For other people, it’s like I it’s not yeah, it does say that, but it’s not really home.

I don’t know, I just went on that tangent, but I did. I always think that’s kind of an overrated. I think it’s a perk for a lot of people, but I don’t think it’s number one in the list for a lot of people if that makes sense.

Unless look, there’s your mom and she wants you to come home. There can be exceptions to every rule clearly. So there you go. All right, uh NFL free agency, anything else on free agency.

Is somebody I’m sorry that that just popped up there. I’m extremely jealous of your pizza for lunch.

What uh what kind of pizza do you have? Please. Uh, I would just like to know. Uh, we can go on a tangent because it says right there random and random which is one, two, three, four from the bottom that always works.

So wherever I put random in the pecking order of the chalkboard, we do random 24/7 365 around here. All right, that’ll do us for free agency for now, right?

We’ve got plenty of time to talk about it all off-season. All right, let’s get to Golden State, Utah. I watched some of that game last night.

Uh, the you know that Steph Curry must be banged up because the Warriors hate resting him at home. So no Draymond Green, no Steph Curry last night.

I felt bad for fans who went to the game last night. The the Warriors tried to rest him on the road, but clearly they had to. So I I’ll acknowledge that they played a game last night.

I’ll acknowledge they won. Utah is a dumpster fire of a team right now. They’re not very good.

Uh, they were down a little bit early and then they ended up winning the game, but my my reason why I put Butler up there is let me explain.

I wanna get your thoughts on this whole thing. So I think I have a little piece here that I can pop up on our screen so it can be impressive for everybody.

Uh, the Miami Heat have suspended Jimmy Butler without pay for an indefinite period to last no fewer than five games after the forward walked out of the team’s shootaround Monday ahead of its game against the Orlando Magic.

There’s the statement from the Heat. You’re probably sick of Jimmy Butler talk, but there’s a reason as we talk about on the show.

We don’t just use filler. Um, I can it’s an hour 12 into the into the show. I could do four hours, I could do three hours, I could do 45 minutes.

We normally do at least a couple hours on the show to make it worth your while to tune in. But if if if there’s no reason to talk about Jimmy Butler, it’s unlike the radio.

This is what’s different and I love it because I don’t talk about Jimmy Butler. In fact, we’ve talked about Jimmy Butler plenty on this show and and I never thought it was anything that was ever gonna happen with the Warriors.

And I still don’t. But here’s something that is kind of changed because and the only reason I put that up on the screen there is because Jimmy Butler has been suspended and it’s getting to the point where when it first started these rumors to Jimmy Butler on to any team in the NBA.

When it first started uh in regards to the Warriors, it was maybe Kuminga or maybe Wiggins or maybe Pojanski and maybe X amount of picks and maybe all these things to make it work and maybe gotta throw in Looney or GP2 or all these different things to get Jimmy Butler.

The reason I popped that up on the screen right there is the Miami Heat have and I know this is impossible, but I’m gonna just use it for effect less than zero per uh less than zero percent leverage here.

They have no leverage, negative leverage. You can’t have negative leverage, but I’m doing it for the effect, which is he has alienated them to such a level and I told you this months ago.

This isn’t about Jimmy Butler wants to win a championship. Jimmy Butler is just he’s just he’s a dog. He really wants to win. No, he doesn’t.

He wants a contract extension. He’s 35 and he wants money. And as we often talk about on the show, everything is about money. Everything’s about money.

So Jimmy Butler wants a contract extension. Pat Riley has told him to pound sand on many occasions and Pat Riley’s just gonna keep spending, keep spending, keep spending him and keep doing this because he tried to play nice.

He tried to keep his leverage. Remember months ago when this all first started and and uh Butler said he wanted to be traded and Pat Riley came out and said, we’re not trading Jimmy Butler.

He’s a pillar of this organization. He’s won here. He’s not going anywhere. Well, he he knew and I told you right after that day, I told you the next morning.

I said they’re trading Jimmy Butler. It’s just that Pat Riley being the great executive that he is is trying to keep the leverage on Jimmy Butler and he doesn’t want to lose it.

Well, they’re well beyond that point. Jimmy Butler is being such a pain in the ass and missing planes and not going to to practices and not and he’s just trying to force his way out because he feels like there’s another organization out there that he can prove himself to.

So that he can get that contract extension that he so desires and he’s ruined his relationship in Miami to do so. And it always blows my mind because Miami is one of the better run organizations.

They’ve won championships. They’re in South Beach. There’s no state income tax. All these positive things that you and I just talked about in regards to NFL free agents and why they would want to go to a certain team.

Or a certain city, Miami has just about all those things. The weather, no taxes, great organization, all these different things Miami has and a lot of guys in the league want to go to Miami.

But Jimmy Butler has decided because he’s not getting an extension, he doesn’t want to play nice. Not is he not want to play nice, he wants to play nasty.

And so the Heat have no leverage whatsoever. What does that have to do with the Warriors, Len? God, you’re jacking us around. What are you doing?

Here’s what it has to do with. There is no Kuminga, there is no Pojanski, there is no Wiggins, there is no anything here.

If the Warriors could get Jimmy for nothing, I’d be on board or next to nothing, I’d be on board.

I’m not well, it’s never on the on the ship of trade Wiggins who’s having a better year than Butler. Anybody’s having a better year than Butler, but Wiggins is having one of his best years.

Kuminga wasn’t on board with trading Jimmy Butler for I’m not anti-trade Kuminga, but sure as hell not for 35-year-old Jimmy Butler.

And a lot of people are probably saying as they’re listening or watching this saying, well, why would you want Jimmy Butler? He’s a giant pain in the butt.

Well, Jimmy Butler wouldn’t be a giant pain in the butt with the Warriors because at least till the end of the season because he would try to play nice because the Warriors haven’t told him they’re not gonna give him a contract extension yet.

That would be in the off-season. But Jimmy would be under some sort of illusion because the Warriors are smart enough to say, well, we’ll see.

Let’s get him for free or very, very little and then let’s see what Jimmy does and now he can prove it to us that he is worthy of a contract extension.

Behind the scenes, the Warriors are going, no damn way we’re giving him a contract extension. They wouldn’t.

But they would play nice enough to see if he could. If you could get Jimmy Butler for nothing, I would get Jimmy Butler for nothing.

Would I get Jimmy Butler for any of the things that we’ve talked about in trade? No. No Kuminga, no Wiggins who’s better than him, no none of the assets.

I’m not giving you Pojanski. I’m not giving you I’m not giving you anything. If he gets if he’s forced to be released, which that’s the road we’re going down here.

Then potentially, yeah, I would be interested. And that’s the only way. If you can get him for not only pennies on I mean, I was gonna say pennies on the dollar, less than pennies on the dollar.

Free. You know, he’s out on the free agent market and I know a lot of people will disagree with me on that and I completely understand why.

He’s being a major pain. He’s tanking their entire season. And so to take a chance and say, well, what if that guy comes here and tanks our season?

I got news for you. It’s already tanked. They’re in 11th place. Let’s go back to the word leverage. What do you have to lose here?

You’re in 11th place the way things are going. And we keep hearing these. Now whether these rumors are true, I don’t know. But like in a guy like Vusovic who’s a nice stretch five in Chicago, you’d love to have the guy.

That’s really what this team is screaming for. Now would he change them from the 11th place team in the West to a come to a competitor for the Western crown?

No, he would not. But Jimmy Butler for free doesn’t hurt. So I’m talking about Vusovic or any of these other stretch fives. A lot of people in the in the room have talked about Miles Turner and guys like that.

I like Turner. He’s not bad, but he’s not gonna change you given that you’re gonna have to trade and equal the salaries of 20 plus million dollars. So whatever you’re gonna have to move out for Miles Turner.

Which my hey, look, maybe Indiana is just sick of it. He’s been on the trade block forever. Maybe you could trade a GP2, a Looney and picks and get him.

I doubt it, but maybe you could. Um, maybe they’ve just had it and they’re just the heck with it.

But the 11th place team before you say to yourself, let me go back to Butler for just a second. Before you say, I wouldn’t take Jimmy Butler under any circumstances.

He’s a pain. He’s tanking their season. Don’t want anything to do with him. First of all, I respect that opinion and I completely understand it.

The other side of it for me would be you’re already in 11th place. Even though you don’t have the disaster and the stench that is that is hanging around the Miami Heat right now.

You’re done. As currently constructed and if the rumors are true that you don’t want to give up Kuminga or you don’t want to give up Wiggins, which I understand who’s having a really nice season.

And you don’t want to move any of these pieces, then you’re clearly stuck in the middle and why not take a chance on Jimmy Butler for basically nothing or nothing and see what he can do on your team and tell Jimmy, look, Jimmy, if you’re on your best behavior.

Then we will consider a contract extension in the off-season. We’ll consider it, but you can’t come here and do what you’ve done in Miami because there’s no chance and he’s not that dumb to think that he could come here, act that way and then get it on another team and keep trying and trying and trying.

So I don’t look, I don’t know if he gets released. Now here’s the other side of it. If he were to get released, would he choose the Warriors because you and I just got done with this long conversation about where would someone fit?

Where is the connection? Where would they feel best? Because here’s what Jimmy Butler starts to think. Okay, I have driven the Heat absolutely bonkers.

They’re going to actually do the most extreme thing to go from we’re gonna con we’re gonna maintain leverage because Pat Riley said months ago, we’re not trading this guy.

And that was only to maintain leverage. So now he’s gotten to such a level and this is where we’re going that he would just say flat out, don’t care.

He’s ruining our season. Don’t care what kind of an asset he is. His contract’s expiring anyway. No one wants him. They won’t give us anything of consequence.

We’re just gonna let the guy go and we’re gonna call this addition by subtraction. So could they

would they get to that level maybe.

Okay, so then then you start thinking to yourself, well where would he go?

San Antonio is interesting, they need a a veteran type of a guy.

Uh Phoenix is where he reportedly wanted to go with with Kevin Durant.

They wouldn’t have to move Beal in that scenario, so maybe it’s maybe it’s Phoenix.

We’ve heard that scenario.

Uh the Lakers would probably always be in play because LeBron’s there and they’re like the Warriors and the Suns, they’re an old man team that possibly

could use one more old man that could potentially help them.

So that I could see him looking at that.

So he’s looking at championship possibilities.

Um doesn’t really seem to fit on the Celtics.

if you’re here’s the one thing.

If you’re a really, really good team without issues, you want nothing to do with Jimmy Butler because the only thing he can do

is be the fly in the ointment.

So you got this stew going on and all of a sudden you add this one ingredient and it goes

and you’re like, oh, I had it perfect and I overdid it.

We’ve done that cooking before. Going back to that sausage cheese macaroni and cheese thing of yesterday and way too much cheese.

I got I by the way, I’m gonna opinion on that that my wife alerted me to that I think is really a a salient point, but we’ll get into that a little bit later when we go down to Caboose and Tongue Guy.

Uh right now we’re in the Butler part of the show on the right side right ahead of New Orleans.

We are at the Butler element of the show on the chalkboard to the right.

So here’s here’s the fine line here.

He’s not gonna go to Boston, he’s not gonna go to Oklahoma City.

He’s not gonna go to Houston, probably not.

Houston I could see maybe because maybe they want to jump the gun over Oklahoma City.

So but but if you’re a really, really good team, you do have something to lose by adding Jimmy Butler to the stew.

Because he could blow the whole thing up.

So if you’re going really, really good, then you probably don’t want anything to do with him.

I don’t think he would go to the Knicks.

I don’t think there’s certain teams that are having pretty good seasons where you’d look up there and you’d go

I’m not adding this guy.

There’s too much to risk.

There’s very little to no risk if you get him for nothing if you’re the Warriors.

Same thing with the Lakers, same thing with the Suns.

Those teams are old man teams that are going nowhere.

So I could see those teams being um in the mix for him.

I could see San Antonio only because well they have Chris Paul, they’re an extremely young team and they need more veteran leadership, not the garbage leadership that he’s providing in Miami, but in the past he has shown

that he can provide positive leadership and there’s a guy named Greg Popovich that even though I think Pop is what, 76, 78, whatever he is

and I know he’s dealing with health issues, he’d still smack Jimmy Butler over the head.

I mean that’s just Popovich just still it doesn’t matter how oldPoppovich is like if I was interviewing him on the sideline, like you often see, I’d be shaking in my boots.

I don’t care how old he is.

I don’t know if he has old man strength still, I have no idea.

But uh Greg Popovich is still legit.

So I could see certain organizations saying, okay, we’re really, really young, we’re not going anywhere anyway

and this guy might be able to provide some leadership.

So there’s only a handful of teams whether you want to agree with me in my evaluation of teams that would or would not be interested for nothing for Jimmy Butler, for nothing I tell you.

Uh the Warriors would certainly be on that list.I think they’d probably be behind Phoenix.I think they’d probably be behind LA, but they would probably be in the mix.

I don’t know what the connection is.

I don’t know what Steph Curry’s relationship for example is with him.

I don’t know what Draymond Green’s relationship is because that’s what it would be is guys like that would have to talk to Jimmy Butler and say you’re not gonna come here and pull this crap that you’re pulling in Miami, right?

We’re boys, we’re friends.

So I don’t know that they have that kind of relationship.

I don’t know what LeBron has, but we have heard that Jimmy Butler likes Kevin Durant and the Suns and wanted to get to the Suns, should they make a trade for him?

Suns aren’t trading for him.

Nobody’s trading for him.

They’re all just gonna sit there and go, look, Miami, if you want to tank your entire season and hang on to this guy in the hope that you can geta couple of second round picks or the hope that you can get a young player or hope that those days are gone.Miami has no leverage.

And so teams are just sitting back going, look, this is the last year of his contract.

If you want to release him in the name of addition by subtraction, then teams are gonna listen.

Then teams are gonna say, okay, we’ll pick him up for nothing, but if you’re trying to scrap for something at the last moment and say, hey, we’ll take a couple of second round picks,

I don’t know that the team is even gonna do that because you do have to make salaries match.

You can’t just say, okay, it’s just Butler.

Once he’s released, then it’s fair game.

But as of you know, if if you’re gonna make a trade, then there has to be some sort of a financial match and I just don’t think teams are gonna do that.

I think teams are gonna say, we know you’re gonna release him.

We’ll play a game of chicken here, we know you’re gonna release him.

So would you be interested for nothing?

We’re not interested for coming, we’re not interested for you know, any trades, we’re not interested for for uh anything like that.

We’re we we we’re not looking at that kind of a situation for Wiggins, anything like that.

But for nothing would you be interested?

Can I interest you in nothing?

Let me get your thoughts on that before we move on to New Orleans random Caboose Tongue Guy

open door, which is open door.

Okay.

This went on a long thing and I don’t know if people are gonna be down with that and uh let me see here.

Uh I I I again without looking, I’m not gonna look.

I’m gonna say you want nothing to do with him, but I don’t know.

I don’t know.

Let me see here.Uh oh yeah, Kings, I could see that.

Oh, the Fox thing.

Yeah, let’s see here.

Thank you uh thank you my friend.

Uh there’s reports that Fox from the Kings wants to go to San Antonio.

I could see that.

Um and and San Antonio has a lot of assets.

I could see I definitely could see De’Aaron Fox going to San Antonio because they have a lot of young assets and what San Antonio needs to do is take those young assets

and get a great player out of young assets put him De’Aaron Fox would fit really good next to Wembanyama.

That would be scary.

That would be I’m I’m not saying right this moment, but that would be a good move for San Antonio long term.

Uh I don’t love it from the Kings’ perspective.

I don’t know what went wrong and soured.

I know a lot of fans are soured on him.

So uh Antonio good to see you.

Jimmy Butler has always been treated like a Diva.

All his teams have sucked up to him to get performance.

Yeah, I think he’s near the end of the line.

I think if you can’t get along with Miami and the success you’ve had there and like I said, I can’t see Miami getting anything.

Because to do a trade, you’ve got a and I think isn’t Butler making like 50 million bucks this year.

I mean you’d have to ship out a lot of stuff.

It’s not gonna happen.

There’s not gonna be a trade for Jimmy Butler.

I feel very confident in saying that.

He’s gonna have to get released.

Or Miami could pull an Al Davis and I could completely see Pat Riley doing this where Pat Riley would sit down and think, okay, we understand the season is being tanked.

But I’m not going to give Jimmy Butler what he wants because he’s been a jerk.

Jimmy Butler is doing this to get released.

There is a certain team on his agenda, I’m sure and probably Phoenix.

Where he’s gonna say to himself, I’m just gonna continue to be a jerk.

I’m gonna be the biggest jerkety jerk jerk I could possibly be so that Pat Riley finally says, fine!

But then Pat Riley knows in the back of his mind that Jimmy Butler gets to go pull up for a playoff contender and gets to go play where

he wants.

And and it just might be that just like with Al Davis where he buried Marcus Allen and others where he just says, look,

I don’t care what it does to our team, you’re not getting what you want.

I’m not doing it.

I’m that I’m that bullheaded to tank our team this season just so you don’t get what you want.

And right and Pat Riley’s one of the few guys because Pat Riley’s not going anywhere.

He’s not getting fired.

So Pat Riley has enough equity built up in the closet in Miami where he could say, I’ll take this whole damn season, I don’t care.

And I’m not getting fired because of it.

Now if you’re an executive who’s on, you know, on edge there and you don’t think that you’re gonna survive the next year, you’re not doing that.

You can’t tank Jimmy Butler, you’re gonna let him go regardless of what it means from a personal standpoint.

So there’s my Butler thing.

That went a little bit longer than I thought it was gonna go.

I didn’t think we were gonna go that long, but uh

uh coming from Miami, I ain’t going nowhere near snow.

Yeah, Phoenix is yeah, I see what you’re saying though.

But you know, I I don’t think he minds.

He was with Chicago, he was with a number of different teams.

Like he was with Philly.

Uh I don’t I don’t I don’t think he cares about that kind of stuff.

I think he just wants to get what he wants.

I think he wants to get to Phoenix.

Maybe maybe here, I don’t know.

I I like I said, I would have to look at what the relationship is we often talk about is with Steph and Dray because those are the guys

that would convince him to either come here or not, right?

That would be the two guys.

He’s not coming here for Jonathan Kuminga.

He’s not coming and I don’t mean in a trade.

I’m saying, oh yeah, Kuminga’s on that team.

I know that guy.

He’s coming for Steph and Dray because if he knows him, he’s going to Phoenix because of Kevin Durant.

He’s going to, you know, whatever, Team X because he knows somebody there and he’s comfortable there.

That’s why he would do it.

Lots of pizza talk going on right now.

I I I think I’m gonna go get a slice.

I think I’m gonna go get a slice right after the show.

I’m starving.

Not that that matters to anybody.

All right, uh we’re at the New Orleans side and I told you that

I’m not gonna tell a ton of New Orleans stories this week.

I’ve covered three Super Bowls in New Orleans.

I covered a national championship football national championship there and was there on New Year’s Eve.

Number of other times um covering things.

I told you the story about being so hungover in my hotel room that right next to the Superdome that I actually called in when I was working for ESPN and I was supposed to be at the game

covering um NCAA tournament games, but I couldn’t I I had I had completely eaten and drank everything out of the hotel

uh courtesy not a courtesy bar, you had to pay for it because I was hungover and I’m thinking I gotta get over there, I gotta get over but I didn’t.

452 left in the uh first half.

Utah is taking out Miami of Ohio.

Wally Zerbiak has 42 points.

Andre Miller 24 and the Utes lead Miami of Ohio 61 58 with 422 left in the second half from the Superdome, but actually at the hotel across the street because I’m so so hungover.

John Lund for ESPN Radio.

And that’s what it you know, was like I now I didn’t say that part, but I’m simply saying that I was supposed to be in the

one short one.

Mmm, mmm.

I’ve told that.

I’ve told a lot of different ones.

The the best because he’s gonna come on Friday,

did I mention that?

Because I think we’re dotting I’s and crossing T’s because I think because Pop is gonna come in on Friday on the show on Friday.

And we’ve spent uh a couple of New Orleans Super Bowls there.

One of the funniest not funniest, but one of the most fun stories was was we were walking back to the hotel and this was probably I don’t know, fourth thirty-five o’clock in the morning and the light the light of day is definitely coming up.

And um you probably know Chris Townsend. So Chris Townsend and I are walking and then all of a sudden,

Greg is kind of I don’t know, he might have been ten yards behind us, fifteen yards behind us and all of a sudden I looked back as we’re maybe ten minutes from the hotel, we’re probably a twenty minute, twenty-five minute walk and so we’re maybe halfway through the walk.

And I looked behind me and um these two women are chatting up Greg.

And I Greg is a really smart guy, but I do think that he didn’t realize that these women had just come off a job

and I don’t mean that in a construction worker kind of a way.

So they’re talking with him, walking with him and Chris and I are looking back at it and we’re going,

let’s walk a little faster because I know what’s gonna happen here.

And he’s just Greg’s just talking and walking and just you know, he’s not really thinking of anything just like, hey, how’s it going?

You know, like they almost came out of the bushes and so he’s walking.

They’re carrying their shoes.

And um all of a sudden uh we get to the hotel room and I’m not kidding you like out of a movie, no joke.

This Cadillac comes from around the corner and you know where I’m going. This Cadillac comes from around the corner.

As we’re going upstairs into the hotel room and the girls stop and the three of us walk into the hotel room.

And uh guy jumps out of the Cadillac and says, excuse me, excuse me gentlemen, excuse me.

And we’re like, yeah.

And he goes uh uh these ladies uh just gave you their time. It it’s gonna that’s gonna cost you.

And I mean it’s it’s less than ten minutes of a walk.

Less than ten minutes and we’re like uh for what?

And we knew but like for what?

They’re like, well their time is money and you just walked with them for ten minutes and so that’ll cost you and I don’t even remember the amount of money that the guy said.

It was ridiculous.

And I’m like, we hey they were walking with us. I mean it’s a it’s a it’s a free sidewalk. They came up to us, they were walking with us.

It wasn’t any we didn’t do anything. We were just walking to our hotel room. Uh chatting them up and we were we were going into our hotel room. Like anybody could walk up to you on the street and walk and and talk with you.

We didn’t there was no solicitation involved.

There was no come on up. There was no there was nothing. There was none of that.

They were just talking and we were walking to our hotel room and they were getting uh this gentleman and then another gentleman came out and they weren’t very happy and they weren’t leaving until they got

a few bucks and so they got a few bucks and we walked into our hotel room and that was the night.

So uh my son is going to New Orleans as I’ve told you and I’ve warned him of these things that nothing is free.

Life is not free, walking with certain people at four thirty in the morning who just got off another job who are uh whose hair is messy and they’re walking with their high heels,

that’s a that’s a sign.

That’s a sign and it’s gonna cost you. That ten minute walk is gonna cost you about two hundred dollars.

So I’m just saying, even if your intentions were pure, even if you didn’t nothing happened, even if nothing was going to happen,um I saw that long long I I turned around and went, let’s walk faster.

Anyway,

that’s one of the milder stories, believe me. That’s maybe the mildest of the mild stories that happened in New Orleans.

We have a ton. Yeah, I was extorted.

I was hustled. See you you you people get the get the gig.

Life lessons with Lund. That’s what it is. Look at, I love this.

That was one of the milder stories and I have like I said, I have

uh in my career probably you know again, we stayed for Super Bowl forty-seven ten days. Imagine the amount of stories.

National Championship game, New Year’s Eve. Uh I was there for ten days for that. Was at the casino which was at Harrah’s in downtown New Orleans. Was there a lot of times, a lot of good stories out of that.

I probably spent uh covering games in New Orleans between Super Bowls, Final Fours, uh just NCAA games, bowl games, probably six seven weeks there and I have a tremendous story of where I did a show one time from the Bourbon Cowboy.

I I have a lot of stuff. But we have all of next week to do that. So I have New Orleans. I’m gonna keep New Orleans on the board through the Super Bowl just because I there are so there are so many great stories and I know

that on Friday when when Greg Joyce is on the show at least he’s scheduled to that he and I have maybe two or three or five stories that we’re gonna tell just on that day alone.

And I think most of them are legal.

Most of them are legal. So I’ll give you more. I’m just kind of I’m I’m letting them out a little bit of time because I can’t give you all the stories.

I probably have thirty that are worthy of of air.

I think thirty that are worthy of air and here’s what’s great about this this particular uh forum stage whatever you wanna call it.

We can talk about it in in every way like normally what I would do on the radio,

depending on the story because we got lots of them from after hours, especially in New Orleans, but it was like okay, how can I tell this story and get around the FCC.

And again, I’m not trying to sit here and offend people or anything like that.

I was it’s funny I I was talking about this with a friend of mine yesterday because I was on

a friend of mine show in Seattle at KJR in Seattle.

And he was saying, well can’t you just sit there and and cuss now and say whatever you want and all this kind of stuff and I could say and I said, yeah I could.

I could say a lot of things whatever I wanted. I could say it a flashy way. I could F bomb, I could do this, I could do that.

After doing it a certain way for thirty years. So you know and I and I kind of think it’s fun that way.

You know, so I don’t wanna just come on here and and F bomb and cuss and say everything and and let it rip because I could because I guess I could,

but I always found it to be fun and challenging

to do it in a way that was still I just saw cauliflower pizza. Don’t you dare bring that into this room.

But anyway, I digress. Um I I just find it challenging to to do it in a way that is that is not a I don’t I’m not gonna say offensive, but to just not sit there and curse and do all those kind of things.

It’s almost like a comedian where and again I don’t I I don’t fancy myself to be a Jerry Seinfeld type where it’s like you know, he never curses or anything like that because as I was telling my friend yesterday in his show in Seattle

that for some reason when I got get off the air, you know, I F bomb this and F bomb that and sometimes my wife goes, God you say F a lot.

And I’m like I I I don’t even realize I’m saying it, but then I get in the air and I never say it.

So it’s this weird uh thing in my brain whether it’s a chip or whatever the case is.

I don’t think it was actually put into my brain, but where it’s just like I stop myself and I don’t wanna just fully go at it because who knows, maybe I’ll do some radio someday or maybe

I’m on stuff all the time where it’s like I’m just not gonna I’m not gonna go down that road, not because I can’t, not because I won’t, not because I’m prudish in that way or anything like that.

It’s just that’s just kind of how I do it.

Oh, Cheeto yeah, I get that. Uh too late for that John, your Chiefs offend me every time.

Uh look I look I people can do it. I’m not I’m not and again I don’t wanna come across as as like, you know, I that it offends me that someone else would.

It’s it’s not that. It’s look, I’ll get off the air at whatever time we’re at hour thirty-seven minutes whenever we feel like we’re done today.

Probably the first thing I’ll do is I’ll talk I’ll talk to my I’ll talk to my wife and I’ll go, yeah there’s F and and she’ll be like, really?

You know, it’s not again I don’t try to do it. I just it’s something that I just and I’m and again I I don’t know, maybe it’s that I don’t wanna offend you, maybe it’s maybe it is, maybe it’s not.

Like I said, I’ve done this for almost thirty years this way and it’s just not something that that I have done and so I don’t wanna go, you know, I don’t wanna go down that road because there’s this weird thing in my head that’s like you can’t do that.

You can’t say that. You can’t say it that way.

And so I found it to be challenging and fun over the years just to tell stories and to say certain things in a certain way.

Having said that, I’ve been to tell New Orleans stories in a certain way that that probably would you know, I could actually add to it and have some fun with it and say things that I probably wouldn’t say on the air.

Does that make any sense?A Frank I think there was a Frank Somerville.

Surprised Frank Somerville wasn’t there too.

I don’t I don’t know where that’s coming from. Is that the guy that had the Porsche and ran into somebody was drinking and ran into somebody.Is that is that who am I thinking of that right?

I should probably look that up before I say that.

Is that was that right or no?

Uh Philip is having a lot of of uh of food talk which I don’t mind and maybe I’m taking this out of context, but I saw you say cauliflower pizza.

I tried cauliflower pizza one time.

Uh uh.

And I’m a big proponent, a big fan of saying that the pizza there are just there’s oh pizza is always great.

It’s just certain levels of it. Like I I if you start at the bottom, let me get my hand in here right. If you start at the bottom, even Tony’s pizza that in college we would just fill our freezer with and then late at night you would eat like Tony’s pizza and back in the day I’m gonna age myself.

Was like a dollar for those pizzas and we’d buy like twenty of them and put them in our freezer and eat them constantly.

That might be the bottom of the bottom as far as pizza and then it goes all the way up to whatever you like.

I did cauliflower pizza.

And that goes against everything I say when I say there’s levels of pizza, but it’s all great.

Cauliflower pizza is not great.

It just is not.

It’s it’s not.

And then somebody just brought up apple fritter versus and I think it was you too Philip. Apple fritter versus maple bar.

I’m probably in the minority even though I like maple bars.

If there’s an a good apple fritter, I’m not talking about one you get at Safeway or some place like that.

I’m talking about like the mom and pop shop. I got one I’ve got one by me that is tremendous and they make this thing and let me see if I can get my hands right.

Like that big because you know, men they we always we always overdo this whole thing. Probably this big and it’s full of and it’s real crispy and

excellent. Excellent. Excellent.

No, I’m not saying apple pizzas, I’m saying

apple fritters are like literally small cakes. Donuts in general, and I don’t know who came up with donuts, but it’s such a great concept. You can have

something that is basically cake but even worse because it’s deep fried for breakfast and then you throw frosting or whatever the heck you throw on it and sometimes you throw like the maple bacon apple those things are not apple, maple uh maple bars with bacon on top of them. Are you kidding? They’re unbelievable and you can have and that passes as breakfast.

Hey Bob, what you got there? I have an uh a maple bar with bacon on it. Oh, that’s breakfast. No it’s not. It’s a deep fried cake with frosting on it. You can’t have that for breakfast, Bob. You’re gonna kill yourself but donuts are acceptable. It’s unbelievable whoever came up with that. What? It it it’s a pastry. You can have it for breakfast. It’s like, no, it’s a deep fried cake and it’s terrible for you but it’s awesome that somebody said that can be breakfast. That absolutely can be breakfast. It’s great man. All right.

Eating that disgusting swine.

I do not like bacon. Hi Great one seven six five. I gotta tell you, around this house, bacon uh we are big bacon people. Big bacon people. If if again not to go down this tangent but we’re at the random part of the show clearly right now. Random part on the right side of your screen on the chalkboard uh down the way is a little bit. If we went bacon sausage conversation bacon 100 out of 100. So if let’s say you’re in a shop, you’re in a a breakfast sandwich shop and they say to you you’re having the egg sandwich uh you know any kind of bagel. So if I was in a big let’s say that I was in one of those shops that does the uh the

breakfast sandwich with the bagel, it’s an everything bagel. If they don’t have the everything bagel then it’s like a jalapeño with you know cheese bagel or whatever. But I go everything bagel uh with the with the egg with pepper jack cheese and bacon on there and avocado. And that’s that’s what I would do. Now some people go sausage. Some people go turkey sausage. I’ve seen that. Bacon. Bacon 100 out of 100. Could be wrong and I’m not this is not a again this is not a math equation. Rarely things on this show are where two plus two is always four. If you say sausage, that’s cool man. I have no issue with that. Don’t give me Canadian bacon or ham though and don’t give me no meat whatsoever. But uh yeah, there’s the the bacon versus sausage debate is a great debate. But I go bacon 100 out of 100. That’s just me and I do go avocado and I do go pepper jack and I do go everything bagel. So just so you know if you ever like saw me somewhere, not that you need to buy me something, I’d rather buy you something because I appreciate you being here most every day. But yeah, and Nathan I’m with you. See no Canadian bacon. Don’t get me wrong. They kid they love Canada uh but no Canadian bacon. Canadian bacon is healthy. It is but I’m not going Canadian bacon. Don’t give me that. And I know where you’re going. I can tell you right now, I know where you’re going because you’re gonna go Canadian bacon and pineapple pizza and I’m I I’m of the opinion, okay? I’m not gonna tell you how to eat. That is that’s another staple of the show that may or may not have come out at this point. I’m not gonna tell you how to eat. If you want ketchup on your hot dog, which is not my thing, I love mustard and you want ketchup, it’s fine with me. I’m not gonna try to convince you to not put ketchup on your hot dog, that’s what you like. If you like ketchup on and I like to mix all my food. So let’s say that we’re having breakfast and there’s hash browns and eggs and bacon and I like to mix it up and put hot sauce over it. No, I don’t use or salsa. I don’t use ketchup on anything. And if I use ketchup the only way I would is with mayonnaise to make a fry sauce and that’s really good but I wouldn’t even use ketchup if I didn’t have to. I’d put barbecue sauce in the mayonnaise, mix that and put the fries in it. Um what else? So but again if you say to yourself, I like Canadian bacon and pineapple. I like Canadian bacon on my breakfast sandwich. Um I like ketchup on my hot dog, you do you. That’s a that’s a staple of the show. I’m not gonna I’m not gonna tell you how to eat your food. I’m not gonna tell you like some people are like the food can’t touch. Like I don’t know how you can do Thanksgiving dinner for example and not have your food touch because there’s so much stuff on there and one time I think I started to stir it and I I’m not this I’m not a masochist to this level. I don’t take all my uh Thanksgiving and mix all that together. Now if I get some potato with some turkey with some green bean, it’s like whatever. That’s fine but I’m I I certainly don’t do that. I don’t you know but if you did let’s say we were sitting next to each other on you know at Thanksgiving or something around the big table and you and I looked over and you were mixing everything, I’d be like you do you. I’m a big fan of that. I do not try to convince people how they should eat their food. That’s that that was always weird to me like I’d look at somebody at a at a baseball game and they got hot dog on the ketchup or hot dog on the ketchup. Ketchup on the hot dog. And I say to myself, man mustard. And I’d go really I’d go like a brown mustard or a spicy mustard if I could but if that wasn’t there, I’d go yellow. But again if there was a spicy and a yellow and you went yellow over spicy, I’d be like you do you. Okay. That’s it. And I don’t do mayonnaise on any sandwich. Uh oil and vinegar with like an Italian or mustard on most other sandwiches. And again a brown mustard or a spicy mustard or a honey mustard over yellow mustard. That’s what I think but I could be wrong.

See this is always the debate. Uh Canadian bacon Hawaiian pizza is the devil. Hawaiian pizza is sacrilege. Now again it’s not my favorite but let’s say that we were sitting there and it was the only pizza there, I would eat it. I mean it’s I don’t think it’s terrible. It’s not my preference but it’s uh you know pizza is pizza. Steak and eggs is outstanding. Steak and eggs is outstanding. Uh what else? I knew we would do this. And see a food tangent at least once a week. A food tangent at least once a week on this show and I’m sorry. I don’t mean to go on these. All right. Are we done with that because that’s that’s random. That’s the random segment segment of the show and I that wasn’t planned in any way shape or form. It just that just happens. All right um

we are to the caboose pistol portion of the show and under caboose pistol we have a tongue guy two and we have an open door. So this by this point yesterday

I’m only rubbing my face because we’re gonna go down we’re gonna go down this road again and I didn’t think we would. Hang on one second. I’m gonna need some water for a drink for this.

Not a big fan of Gatorade Zero but um we only had one of these left so I got little water little Gatorade Zero. Um all right. Let’s resume. So yesterday at this time we uh at the bottom of the chalkboard which is where we are now at tongue guy and then there’s a two next to it. Almost like it’s a sequel. Hey have you seen tongue guy? Wait till you see tongue guy two. Uh quite twice as crazy crazy crazy. So yesterday at this point we’d had this story. I know I left it up here on the media stuff. So let me just go back to it real quick. Uh da da da da da. Oh here it is. Okay, so we were talking about all sorts of sports and I did the go down the um the rabbit hole kind of a thing and I defended the Chiefs which everybody loved a lot. And I defended the Chiefs and did that kind of stuff. I even have by the way I even wrote about it. So if you go to JohnLundUnleashed.com, we’ve even got a story on me defending the Chiefs which I’m sure you’ll absolutely love. That’s not a good way to promote something but it’s at JohnLundUnleashed.com and so uh we were talking about all sorts of sports and all sorts of things and and talking about the show and we had the chalkboard and at the bottom of the chalkboard yesterday was tongue guy was tongue guy, not tongue guy two, tongue guy. And so everyone’s like what’s tongue guy? What’s tongue guy? What’s tongue guy? Everybody’s going crazy in the comments section and every you know the more I talked about sports the more that you got emphatic and it was like five or six exclamation points tongue guy, tongue guy, tongue guy, tongue guy. So finally I was like okay. Guess we’re done here. We gotta get to tongue guy. So this was the story yesterday. Love a god if you weren’t with us yesterday. Byron Schlenker, 47 has a tongue nine centimeters wide, almost as wide as his wife’s smile right there. Is considered the man with the world’s widest tongue is now featured Guinness Book of World Records. Next to him is proud wife with the biggest smile in the world. So that’s what was yesterday. So I told you and this is one of the reasons I was late today is because I had everything planned out and I’ve got this next to next to uh the screen that you don’t see. There’s all these different things I have whether they be videos or pop ups like this or you know all these different things. So I double was double checking and I was like do I have everything and I went oh I have that video on tongue guy and I have it in my I I have it on my iPad and I had to had to shoot it over and airdrop it over to my computer so that I could play it on the show. So I I I was about ready to hit the button to get going and and I I totally forgot. So it took me an extra couple minutes which is why I was a little bit late today. So anyway, just to revisit if you weren’t with us yesterday, keep everybody up to date. There’s the tongue guy story and we everybody laughed and we talked about think somebody said he’s gonna need to like pack that thing like a parachute to get it back in and and uh there was all all sorts of jokes, all sorts of discussions. So I have a I have a thing to go further. Let me see if anybody’s saying anything about tongue guy today. Just double check this. How does that dude talk? No risk of swallowing his own tongue. See Jacob but wasn’t here yesterday. So that’s what I mean as some people

Tongue with catsup is so tasty yum.

That was outstanding tongue with the ketchup. Uh oh yeah we talked I talked to one friend of mine about tongue yesterday about you know he like in the butcher block like what tongue. Man I’ve never had tongue. I’m not gonna ever have tongue. One lick. That’s beautiful JJ Raider. Byron only needs one lick to get the center of the tootsie pop. Mr Owl, how many licks does it take to get the center of a tootsie pop tootsie roll? One two two because he bites down on that whole thing. So uh anyway uh any thoughts about that. Okay, so that man can clean a jar of peanut butter easily. Yeah you can put it in there probably one lick, right? So anyway uh has to breathe through his nose. So I knew this would would start this. That’s not why I did it. Okay? I didn’t bring this back up so that we could go back down this road which I don’t mind whatsoever. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying that we don’t need to go back down this road but what I did was I promised you something yesterday and I try to come through with everything that I promised. So I thought you know what would be really funny because a lot of times what I do and if you’re if you’re new around here when I was on my radio show on KMB R and through the number of years that I’ve done radio shows um I always thought that when we did this caboose pistol which we’ve done which we did on the air for probably 15 years and I’ve tried to make a milder version of it because a lot of people are like you know you’re going too far with everything and like I said it’s a bit of a democracy here to a certain extent. And so I always loved it when I would tell these stories but the better part a lot of times was what what the reaction was to the newscasters who had to report such a story. So I went back yesterday after the show and I thought to myself, I bet there’s a really funny news story around this and I bet that there’s a female anchor who’s laughing every time she talks about this tongue and maybe blushes a little bit and lo and behold the first news report I see about tongue guy, Byron Schlenker whatever his name is 47 with the world’s widest tongue and I knew that there would be a news story where the news anchors had to start laughing sophomorically like I do when I see these stories and the first one I popped up the first one I found is exactly what happened. So here’s how Byron Schlenker’s tongue story was reported by one news station.

bragging rights tonight. I got to meet him today. He’s an awesome guy. Yeah.

Okay hang on let me go to the beginning because it’s it’s funnier at the beginning. Okay ready? Here we go.

can probably lick an ice cream cone

tonight this man can probably lick an ice cream cone

like nobody else. Well that’s for sure. This man from Syracuse says major I mean look at this. This major bragging rights tonight. I got to meet him today. He’s an awesome guy. Yeah. At 8.6 centimeters Byron Schlenker has the world’s widest tongue. Did you know there was such a thing? Well now I do. Well two years ago he was at the Onondaga Free Library with his daughter when they picked up the Guinness Book of World Records off the shelf and then flipped to the page with the world’s widest tongue. Look at that. Isn’t that incredible? Well they went home and they measured his tongue. He says he never realized how big his is and it came as a shock when he was certified by Guinness. Yeah. But people get excited and sometimes it catches you off guard. You know they’re like oh can you lick my bowl? You know I’m not licking anything you know but it’s just fun. You know it’s just a fun what a silly fun thing to happen and anybody that knows me knows I don’t take it. Okay hang on a minute. Let’s go back to the original where the woman’s talking about the licking the ice cream cone and kind of makes her laugh and then the guy kind of laughs a little bit sophomorically. He has major bragging rights. What do you mean he has major bragging rights? Just because he has a wide tongue? What are you talking about there Bob? What do you mean he has major bragging rights? Why is she laughing when she when she says and pauses you know he could really lick a ice cream cone with that thing. Like I knew that’s exactly what they would do. I knew exactly what the newscasters would do with a tongue story like that. So I don’t feel bad about being sophomoric at all with it. She did it he did it major bragging rights lick a ice cream cone. Like I knew exactly what these people would do and how they would handle the news story and they never let me down. A lot of times the news story is better than the actual story itself and that one did not disappoint. So what did you think? How did you handle that? Uh yeah I will attack you. I will show this to Pop when he comes on. He he will like that. Major tongue envy. See? That’s the guy had major tongue envy. The guy’s like oh my god do you see that guy’s tongue? I’m sure when he got home that night his his his wife was like the news anchor’s wife was like hey you got that guy’s number? I’d like to interview him too. The woman’s like uh I’d like to have an ice cream cone with that guy too. Like my god. Anyway. Uh let’s see I think I might have one more story. Uh big tongue energy. Nice call there. BTE big tongue energy. So I knew I could find that. That’s why it was late today. I knew that uh I knew that there would be a newscast like that and I thought to myself oh I forgot to transfer it over and since I had made the time to do it, I thought well I’ve got to do this. So that’s what I did. Uh the woman newscaster seems impressed with his tongue and she mentioned how big it is does she mean she even mentioned he can lick an ice cream what is she saying dirty?? Exactly. She paused afterwards. She’s like the that tongue guy is well spoken. That’s a good point. I don’t know how he sticks that how he keeps that guy in his or keeps that thing that guy. I think in his mouth the way that he is but yeah. Yeah absolutely guy I don’t know I tucked it in there like a parachute or something. I don’t know if he has to fold it if it takes a minute. I don’t what the case may be but then they show him licking an ice cream cone too. One more real quick sorry. I’m sorry.

I got to meet him today. He’s an awesome guy.

I got to meet him today. At 8.6 centimeters Byron Schlenker has the world’s widest tongue.

lick an ice cream cone like nobody else. Well that’s for sure. This man from Syracuse says major I mean look at this. This major bragging rights tonight.

Well two years ago he was at the Onondaga Free Library with his

Anyway. Don’t bring over his dog. That makes him creepy. Anyway. Did you know there was such a thing? Uh then they showed the close up of him licking the ice cream cone. It’s like what is wrong? What? Anyway. All right that’s it.

I love this. Just randomly SF Niners eight oh eight says Mahomes sucks! I love it. I know you’re over on uh you’re over in Hawaii. So what what time we got right now? So maybe you just got up at seven o’clock in the morning and we’ve been doing all these things and you’re like just just woke up and just put Mahomes sucks! I have no issue with that. I I look you can randomly put whatever you want here. Whatever it is we’re talking about and whatever you go with and you know me you’ll just send me back up to the random portion of the show. So anyway there you go.

That ice cream cone doesn’t stand a chance. It did not whatsoever. All right uh again episode 44. Thank you. I I started the show with thank you because my son had a uh great moment in his life yesterday and it was because of you that he became that and became that much better. He got an internship with the Brewster Whitecaps of the uh Cape Cod League. He was very excited about it and then like I said you see 4500 that was uh last night got like 5000 responses at Glundmedia people they are congratulating him on it and it just made his day. It was just like I was stoked to get that gig but then all these people were hitting me up that didn’t even know and it was really cool. So that was cool. Uh rabbit hole we did that again the conspiracy theory look the NFL is not trying to make the major metropolis of Kansas City be the center of the universe in the NFL over New York the number one media market with two teams that stink over LA two boring teams over Chicago the third largest media market they stink over the 49ers fourth largest media market San Francisco they didn’t have a good year or the fifth largest media market which is Dallas. Doesn’t make any sense. We went into that. Uh Deebo Super Bowl which is the cut where we played this a little bit earlier.

As you can see they just been

where Deebo said that he did not want anything to do with Kansas City and he’s rooting for the Eagles in the Super Bowl. Marshawn Lynch was the one where he’d yelled Raiders from the back of the room. Hold on.

fans come from we do want to fill our stadium up with our guys. I know that we have a good draw for people from out of town.

That’s Marshawn Lynch and it scared the hell out of old Pete Carroll. Uh we went into NFL mocks and NFL free agency. If you missed that, I showed you all these guys that are gonna fit for the 49ers because of relationships. I just didn’t throw darts against the board there relationships here. We’ll see how well we do. Go to the back to the beginning of the show if you want to go back to those players but there’s a number of guys mostly interior offensive lineman and defensive players who make sense for the 49ers but not only makes sense for the 49ers. Let’s dig a little bit deeper on it on this show and we looked at potential fits. We’ll see how we did there. Uh Jimmy Butler Utah the win last night Jimmy Butler. I would take him for nothing which is the road he’s going down right now but where would he choose New Orleans stories which we’ll do more and more of as the week and next week progresses uh random stuff which we do all throughout the show. We got into another food tangent about ketchup and pizzas and donuts and all sorts of things. Caboose pistol tongue guy two which we just showed you tongue guy where they got really excited remember.

picked up the Guinness Book of World Records off the

the beginning is the funny part.

can probably lick an ice cream cone

tonight this man can probably lick an ice cream cone

like nobody else. Well that’s for sure.

Well that’s for sure Barbara.

Uh so there’s that one and and tongue guy open door I didn’t get to but the thing is I’m gonna be honest with you. Open door is a let down after tongue guy. So I’m not gonna do an open door maybe tomorrow. Open door is open door is a let down next to tongue guy. So I’m gonna end it on that. I’d rather end it on the best note we can because then if I go to open door which is not a bad story it’s just not tongue guy story. So you’d be like you didn’t have a grand finale. Like you threw all you did all the fireworks and then you did this last little blip blip and that wasn’t as good as tongue guy two. So the movie is tongue guy two where the news anchor gets really excited and then male news anchor gets very jealous story at eleven. So I’m I’m not gonna play that anymore. Uh I think that’s it. What do we got? What else do we have? Did I miss anything today? If you missed anything on the show glad you asked. All you gotta do is go on the YouTube channel John Lund Unleashed Pod John Lund Unleashed Pod and you can go back and you can watch the whole thing. If you’re on Instagram and you’re watching we’re here every day at eight AM Pacific Time Monday through Friday. Saturdays we do a ten AM show for a bonus. So we’re also on X

and Instagram for those shows or on YouTube. Please subscribe on YouTube, John Lund Unleashed Pod. If you subscribe there, like, do all those things. Go back, you can watch the show and we do archive everything, whether it be the podcast, which is Apple on Apple, Spotify or every-

its favorite podcast, the uh video shows, the YouTube shows, we put those up at johnlundunleashed.com and later on I always do a story of the day. So we look at the show and we say what was the biggest story of the day outside of Tongue Guy

and we actually do a story on that and that’s about a 10-minute long video and then we write we actually have a story beyond that too. So we do both of those things later. If news breaks, we’re always back throughout a couple of shorts during the day, so we always have content coming, so make sure that you have those alerts on on the YouTube channel John Lund Unleashed. So thanks always. Let me double check to make sure I didn’t miss anything or there’s no breaking news here at this particular point

of the show. Uh open door has closed. I’ll do it tomorrow. It’s not a bad story. It’s just it’s not as good as uh Tongue Guy, you know what I mean? Oh, the other thing I wanted to mention, I totally I I always do this. Please, if you join the John Lund Unleashed uh uh group, then um the loyalist group, John Lund Unleashed Loyalists, let me know what you want. I’ve already got gear here. We’ve ordered more gear, so I want to give it out to the people who are joining that first. We will get in touch.

If you hit me up, I do have a contact as part of johnlundunleashed.com. I’ve got a a contact area. So make sure you hit that up and then um and then I’ll make sure I get back to you and uh if you join the loyalist group, tell me your screenshot it and I want to make sure that those people get the gear when we get it in next. So there you go. That is that is uh what we’ve got going on. Uh can we send you funny memes vids to share with you? I have a funny Raider one haha that can be shared on the show

maybe. We can share pretty much anything we want on the show. But uh yeah, absolutely. Uh I’d never gotten that question before, but I’m always a big fan of it. If you have something that you want to get on the show, if it’s good, I’ll play it, you know that. I’m just trying to entertain people. Uh what else do we have? Yeah, somebody yesterday, did you bring that up Steve? By the way, thank you. A lot of people went over to the Krug show right after the show yesterday and made a great time with Krug for a couple hours

after the show and somebody brought up Tongue Guy on the Krug show yesterday and then Krug saw it and I actually I think somebody um threw in a couple of bucks so that it would get um so that it would get read and then so Krug was like, what is Tongue Guy? And so he even brought up Tongue Guy on the show yesterday. So that was kind of funny to that point. Uh let’s see. Hi Perry, good to see you. To give up anything of value for 2 months of Butler is ridiculous, and to give him the huge

extension too. They’re not going to give him the extension here. They’re not going to give up anything of value here or anywhere. He has alienated himself. Jimmy Butler has to such an extent and now they’ve suspended him for a number of games. They have zero, they have less than zero leverage even though that’s impossible and I think they’ve relegated themselves to the fact that they’re going to have to release him. Now the only thing as I said where that makes Miami unique in that way

is that Pat Riley is very Al Davis-ish and he may say we’re just going to suspend him the rest of the year. He’s not going to be around the team and because we’re not going to get anything for him, why would we release him so that he could go to another team? A, we might we could run him into him into the playoffs even though that Miami’s not very good with or without him. They’re not going to Pat Riley’s not going to do that. Hey, let’s release him. He goes to some team in the Eastern Conference and then we have to face him when he’s being, you know, when he’s on his best behavior. So they they don’t want to do that

and if they if they if they suspend him the rest of the time then he’s not around the team anyway. So the one fly in the ointment of what I’m talking about in terms of Pat Riley just saying to hell with it, we’ll release the guy and then he can sign wherever he wants. First of all, Pat Riley, I’m sure is vindictive in that way and that he’s not going to allow Jimmy Butler to just go somewhere and get what he wants because he was such a jerk. I’m going to be such a jerk that they’re going to have to release me. What Pat Riley could do is just say,

you know, we’ll just spend you the rest of the year and you’re not around the team, so you’re not going to be able to affect us anymore in a negative sense. So you’re just gone anyway. Because if they release him at this point too, they’re still paying his salary. He’s just he’s going to get some minimum deal with some other team and that’s going to be offset. So here’s Miami, you know, writing checks, signing the checks and Jimmy Butler’s still getting paid so that he can go to the Phoenix Suns or the Warriors or the whatever and actually try to win a championship. So the more I think about this while from a Warriors perspective it makes sense because he’s going to come here try to be a nice guy. The Warriors going to go, oh yeah, sure Jimmy, if you’re a good guy, we’ll think about an extension.

Even though we didn’t have to give him anything to get you with a minimum contract, so that makes sense for the Warriors because they have very in if you’re just joining the show, they have nothing to lose. They’re in 11th place. Who cares? Like what do we have to lose by picking him up for nothing. But the the Miami side of things is, okay, we’re going to let him go. We’re going to give him what he wants where he can go to a team and potentially play for a championship, get on his best behavior and maybe get an extension there after the season

or we can just suspend him the rest of the year, make him be miserable and let him realize and others who might try this tactic with our team that we’re not going to give you what you want. We’re going to let you rot, which is the Al Davis philosophy, which is you’re not getting what you want. And although it’s not going to help our team, I’m not going to help you. And maybe that’s what Pat Riley will ultimately do. So there you go. We finished that up. I think that’s it. Great stuff. Great stuff today from food to sports to mocks to free agency to Marshawn to Deebo to more Tongue Guy.

Quality show. I think it was above average. I think uh I think it was above average. Uh Anthony, thank you so much. We appreciate it. I always love doing stuff with Krug. I do weeklies with Krug depending on the day. Normally either Sundays or Monday nights, which was really really cool. And uh look, the reason we talked Giants yesterday was Larry Baer and I think I had this yesterday but I took it off my board for today. Uh Larry Baer just basically said we can’t worry about the Dodgers and it’s like uh okay. I just took that as we’re not competing with them.

And yeah, that was I did not like that. I did not like that quote whatsoever. All right, everybody have a tremendous tremendous Hump Day. Hope somebody could send me off on a coffee tangent. I see that Philip, but I’m not going to go. I can’t do it. I don’t have enough time to do coffee. Um although I will say one thing before I leave. My wife is obsessed with this Starbucks caramel coffee and I can smell it in our house and I’ve tried it no less than three times. It’s not working for me. So if you noticed this morning, I know this is not good for me.

I did Monster Energy drink today and I love coffee, but I did Monster Energy today because I can’t do the caramel coffee thing. It’s like this I don’t know what it is. And so I went out and I bought two really good uh things of Kona coffee, which I love. My mom lives in Kona and I I uh I bought this big Kona coffee thing with the beans and I’ll I’ll grind them. I’ll grind them fresh. I do it if I get up before my wife, which oftentimes I do, but I have to make the coffee before her and if not, then she the night before sometime she’ll beat me to the punch on it and she’ll make this caramel coffee and then and then so in the morning I wake up and I’ll I’ll do a little sniff test and I’ll be like, oh it’s caramel coffee.

And therefore I know I’m not I can’t do coffee that morning, which has happened a couple of times and and I’m trying you know what I should do. Probably watching this thing. What I should do was go in right now because there’s very little left and just pour just pour it out, throw it out. And then because she doesn’t want to do the extra step. I went over the weekend and I cleaned out all of our coffee stuff. It was all sticky with all this stuff. I completely arranged it and did all this stuff and I put all the really good coffee in a sealed jar so that all you had to do was pour a little bit into the grinder in the morning, you can make fresh Kona coffee, but she’s pouring the the caramel coffee into the into the coffee stuff.

The it’s just it’s terrible coffee. See, I just said I wouldn’t go on a tangent on coffee and you sent me on a tangent on coffee. You knew you could do that. You knew my ADD would kick in. God dang it. All right. That’s it. Not doing another one. You could try. It’s not going to happen. Not going to happen. Not going to happen. Yeah, Kona coffee is so good. So good. Especially if you grind it. The grinding takes I know that we’re in a microwave society and we want to just have everything right this second. But honestly, taking the beans, pouring it in, grinding it and then pouring it into the filter

less than 60 seconds. I mean to have really good coffee. I’m probably going to get in trouble now. I’m probably going to get in trouble now. I’m going to walk right in there and she’s going to have a look on her face. You know pouring out that caramel coffee. You pour out that caramel coffee, I will smack you. She probably will. Yeah, I know. I know Tacky. Do it a lot. Couch couch couch couch. It’s a comfortable couch at least. We went and bought one about six months ago, gigantic like a you know, the whole deal, the U-shaped one and I did it because I say so many stupid things that that I get on that I’m on there a lot.

All right, that’ll do it. We already went over the chalkboard. Had a great time today. We will do better tomorrow on the Thursday edition of the uh program tomorrow. It’s Thursday already. Uh I’m dotting I’s crossing T’s on a guest. I will have a great one tomorrow and then Friday, uh Papa is going to join the show and then next week, young son George is going to be in New Orleans covering the uh same guy. Going to be covering the uh Super Bowl and uh he is going to be my correspondent, our correspondent because we’re together in this whole thing. He is going to be our correspondent for the Super Bowl next week. So we will have live live live uh performances from New Orleans and he’ll try to throw some guests on and all that kind of stuff. So we’ll have a great time.

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